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piflechien
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Posted: 2009-10-20 14:50
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The facebook left softkey is only availaible when the app is running in backgroound and when it is set to be used on home screen. (In the facebook app options)
Muhammad-Oli
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Posted: 2009-10-20 14:54
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On 2009-10-20 14:38:16, drinki wrote:

On 2009-10-20 02:56:56, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Thanks! I hope not too. One thing I thought the phone had, but mine certainly doesn't was the SMS conversation view. I was looking forward to that but it ain't here!

Otherwise all is still great.
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2009-10-20 01:57 ]


What a serious omission on your unit, others sure have it:




Wow, that's weird. I don't see any reason why they would ever make a version with and a version without! I'm really confused about that.
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Posted: 2009-10-20 15:03
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I don't have it either....
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Posted: 2009-10-20 15:04
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@drinki, where did you get that screenshot? I'm wondering if maybe it was a prototype?
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Posted: 2009-10-20 15:16
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On 2009-10-20 15:04:41, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
@drinki, where did you get that screenshot? I'm wondering if maybe it was a prototype?


I got it from Techradar review! Here's the link: Link text...
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Posted: 2009-10-20 15:27
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regarding the facebook shortcut, mine didnt have one. bought from HK. BUT! When you had the facebook app opened and signed in, and then select minimise from the options menu, it takes you to the home screen of the phone, and facebook was then a shortcut. once the app was placed, it was no longer a shortcut.

i had ebuddy installed on the phone. ebuddy operates via touch but you need to type with the keyboard.

i had the standard SE java one installed. so was surprised to see it worked with touch. perhaps people should install some apps and see if they work with touch. and list here which ones work/dont work.

also, one thing i liked is... the phone has a sensor on it, when your on the phone, and the screen is on your cheek, screen automatically turns off, so you dont press anything with your face, and when you remove the phone from your face, screen comes on again incase you want to hang up or what ever...

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Posted: 2009-10-20 15:55
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There is SMS conversation view in my Aino. And yes, it does seem weird that it's not present in other Aino's....
Firmware R1BA049 here.
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Posted: 2009-10-20 16:28
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Same here Firmware R1BA049, but no conversation style !
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Posted: 2009-10-20 16:33
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Regional things must be affecting the sms threaded view.
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Posted: 2009-10-20 16:40
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I have SMS conversation from HK I can't see why they wouldn't put it in.. Sambouka, are you sure you're looking in the right place?

With the facebook shortcut, I'm pretty sure my phone is unbranded as there's no branding in the software or on the box and it sold sim free. Maybe I should try a different firmware. I guess it's ok, I can live with facebook. I'm loving Opera Mini 5 with touch screen.

Did anyone find where to change the new events to pop-up instead of activity menu?

I thought it was nice to see the PC Suite and Media GO installation files preloaded on the phone. I plugged it into my computer and it offered to install from my phone, no need for CDs or downloads.

Not put any music on my phone yet, but I'm eager to see if it has the same troubles as my C905 did with bluetooth streaming music to my car stereo. It used to be a tad gittery. I shouldn't think it will be otherwise why would they bundle bluetooth streaming headset? My old issue could have been with the memory card rather than anything else.
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Posted: 2009-10-20 22:44
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Have you guys checked in your messages in the menu? I thought my C510 and W995 didn't have it either, because I had to "activate" it by going in to the menu and chosing once to view them under "conversations", after that they all came in the threaded way

This might be why you aren't getting it. If not, then it's strange.
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Posted: 2009-10-21 00:02
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Guys guys This SMS conversation feature availability is a well known "problem".
It depends on the CDA of your phone.
remember that was the same thing when it appeared on the C905.
Some region/country/branding have it, others don't.

Unfortunately there is no way (yet) to enable it via a simple customize_upgrade.xml file like it was the case on the DB3210 platform, because Aino is a new platform : DB3350 which is not (yet?) supported by A2Uploader

Same thing goes for the facebook app. Not available for every CDA.
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Posted: 2009-10-21 02:00
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Yeah that must be right because mine is R1BA049 as well, and there's definitely no conversation style messaging. My girlfriend has a W508 with it, so I know how it works and where to activate it and so on. It's just not there.

So far that's the only disappointment I have with this phone.
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Posted: 2009-10-21 03:39
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My 2 cents:

I have now owned this phone for one week. The best part is that it arrived in 1½ days from Hong Kong to Minnesota, USA. I was shocked at how quickly it arrived!

This phone does NOT have stereo speakers and the loud speaker is located on the bottom of the phone. It is also not very loud. Both of these facts are disappointing.

The user interface is a little sluggish. And there are weird instances with functionality because of the nature of the phone being open or closed. All of these instances could have been solved if Sony just allowed for a full touch interface.

First of all, you cannot truely lock the phone. There is a lock button on the top but only works when the phone is closed. However sliding the phone open always takes the phone out of lock.

Second, if you receive a text message when the phone is closed, the only thing you can touch on the screen is a "x" which closes the message. If you want to read the message you have to open the phone. WHY??

Third, if a call comes in when the phone is closed you can touch the screen to answer it (kind of cool - you slide your finger across), BUT, there is a huge rectangular box at the bottom of the screen that will end the call if you touch it. My cheek or chin ALWAYS touches this box and the call ends. This is because the sensor by the ear speaker is not sensative enough. This sensor is supposed to notice proximity to your face/ear and disable the screen, but the only way I can disable the screen is by holding the phone in an unnatural position or by jamming it into my ear. Not cool!

Fourth, the screen is sometimes unresponsive to touch. I cannot determine why though, because in the service test menu there is a way to test the touchscreen and even the slightest touch is recognized every time, and on every part of the screen.

Believe it or not the Aino is replacing my W800i that I bought over 4 years ago. I have experience with other Sony phones however so I know what to expect. I purchased a K850i when it first came out but sold it within a month. In hindsight I did like that phone.

I also just noticed that you cannot assign a video ringtone. When did Sony do away with this? I know the K850i could do it.

I guess I'm surprised that aside from 8 megapixel that the functionality is not much different from my 4 year old W800i. And the W800i was WAY faster!

The positives are a very large screen which looks great! And really, that's the only thing I care about. I was getting sick of my 1.8" 176x220 screen. Also my camera didn't work anymore so I like that I have one again, however, the camera on the Aino is very sluggish. It takes over 5 seconds just to be able to take a picture, and almost twice as long to process and save. You also cannot take pictures with the slider open, instead the screen will tell you to close the phone.

Oh, someone asked about the possibility of HD video. It cannot do that, but the reason it says that in the picture menu is because 3.1 megapixel is just barely over HD spec (1920x1080). 2.3 megapixels = 1920x1200. And the video menu lists nHD as one of the options, which equals 640x360 (half the width and height of 720p).

Well, hopefully an update will fix a lot of these issues. Because of this I am hopeful and will keep this phone. I can't see why Sony would not make this phone full-touch capable!
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Posted: 2009-10-21 04:15
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TO GET THE CONVERSATION's TAB


Main menu -> Messages
The second item will be either "INBOX" or "CONVERSATION".

If it is Inbox, go into it.

There will be two 'tabs'.
Choose the second one,
Exit that view by pressing the cancel call button.

Now when you receive a new msg, the conversation tab will pop up.

If you want to go back to 'Inbox" view, just choose the other tab as above.

Nice Options by SE, but they should have documented it!
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