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tai020381
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On 2020-06-23 10:48:00, kurtdean wrote:
On 2020-06-23 10:04:38, cool_sauce wrote:
On 2020-06-23 02:17:55, tai020381 wrote:
On 2020-06-22 22:07:35, Hawk12 wrote:
I do not know about newer devices.
But at least the backlit scene/hdr of Z series is more of DRO than HDR.
It will lift shadows at expense of noise.
My phone does much wprse when HdR is used compared to landscape scene when it is not high contrast situation.
I've seen photo pro samples ppl post on reddit, they look π ...
Fur of pets are incredible.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-06-22 21:08 ]
Taiwanese site talking about photo pro. Pictures and colors plus the eye af . WOW ~ 
https://www.eprice.com.tw/mob[....]/1/rv/sony-xperia-1-ii-review/
https://marcokao.com/2020/06/[....]ζ―δ½ -xperia-1-ii-ε
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[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2020-06-23 01:19 ]
Guy has mastered the lighting and with that lighting setup any flagship phone camera would deliver here.
Show me other phones. I want to compare. You're talking bullshit without proof. I think this is the best quality a phone could get without looking fake with fake hdr and fake saturated colours like other flagship
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2020-06-23 11:40 ]
The eyes are in focus which brings out a lot! The whole picture general looks very sharp too! | |
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McKinley
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I was afraid I would have to flick through all the frames one by one when taking burst shots.
All the burst photos are stored as frames within the frame.
Not entirely sure that makes sense to you, but that's really neat.
I just wish we could have the option lowering the resolution for 90Hz and I would take that in a heartbeat.
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sounds a lot like how it was previously implemented. all burst photos are stored with one burst "instance" and when you select the instance, you can select the particular frame or frames you want to keep and/or delete.
heh that 90hz is really bothering you. does it really effect your enjoyment that much?
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McKinley
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On 2020-06-23 20:23:23, moogoo wrote:
sounds a lot like how it was previously implemented. all burst photos are stored with one burst "instance" and when you select the instance, you can select the particular frame or frames you want to keep and/or delete.
heh that 90hz is really bothering you. does it really effect your enjoyment that much?
Yes the lack of 90Hz does bother me pretty much.
Still, this is the best Xperia since the Z3 for me at least.
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I think it bothers you more because you went from 90/120hz down to 60. for someone like me, i probably won't care at all.
Glad you are able to enjoy it despite this point. I can't wait to get mine!
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Shino03
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https://youtu.be/mzlzOEXE5wU
Skip to 7: 24
The best review of the camera's 20fps autofocus
At that speed, my current phone will have rolling shutter effect. I really doubt that those giga mp count will prevent rolling shutter. 
P.S. the 16mm, is definitely slower than the main cam
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Hawk12
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That is why Sony says " Capture the previously impossible!! "...
ππππ. You cant do this with other brands. |
Bialynia
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Got my 1ii yesterday. Feels pretty much just like my Xperia 1 but a little boxier to hold. Xperia 1 was a little better in the hand. I'll be taking pics today. The headphone jack is the best feature, I got to charge the phone and talk at the same time. |
Hawk12
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https://youtu.be/FyK1IF2OJzk
You can start at 7:00 (them will not see the part the throws the phone in the air and lets it reach the floor to test case).
He compares to 1, Auto x DRO x HDR ... |
McKinley
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I took a few photos today when I went to the park with my family.
The comparison between my Xperia 1 II and wife's Galaxy S10+ was inevitable.
To my great disappointment, the Xperia 1 II lost to the S10+ when it comes to the fine details.
Just for the sake of it, I used my Fujifilm X-T3 as reference.
Sony Xperia 1 II with pro app full auto
https://photos.app.goo.gl/m11rph2XBTz6DMi2A
Samsung Galaxy S10+
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FRxa5bZuChsDMVid7
Fujifilm X-T3
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wDjpzNQ7tqqnr6QR6
Samsung in full auto looks disgusting as far as color rendition goes but has a lot of details with pretty strong sharpening.
The Sony Xperia 1 II, offers the most accurate colors with really good shadow details but by far the worst image quality of them all.
My camera has the best image quality except from being just a tad too cold and overexposing slightly in the bright areas.
Conclusion, if you don't pixelpeep, the Sony Xperia 1 II offers very pleasing images in full auto.
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On 2020-06-24 17:17:39, McKinley wrote:
I took a few photos today when I went to the park with my family.
The comparison between my Xperia 1 II and wife's Galaxy S10+ was inevitable.
To my great disappointment, the Xperia 1 II lost pretty big to the S10+.
Just for the sake of it, I used my Fujifilm X-T3 as reference.
Sony Xperia 1 II with pro app full auto
https://photos.app.goo.gl/m11rph2XBTz6DMi2A
Samsung Galaxy S10+
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FRxa5bZuChsDMVid7
Fujifilm X-T3
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wDjpzNQ7tqqnr6QR6
Samsung in full auto looks disgusting as far as color rendition goes but has a lot of details with pretty strong sharpening.
The Sony Xperia 1 II, offers the most accurate colors with really good shadow details but by far the worst image quality.
My camera has the best image quality except from being just a tad too cold and overexposing slightly in the bright areas.
Did you use the regular camera app? |
McKinley
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On 2020-06-24 17:23:36, xpr wrote:
On 2020-06-24 17:17:39, McKinley wrote:
I took a few photos today when I went to the park with my family.
The comparison between my Xperia 1 II and wife's Galaxy S10+ was inevitable.
To my great disappointment, the Xperia 1 II lost pretty big to the S10+.
Just for the sake of it, I used my Fujifilm X-T3 as reference.
Sony Xperia 1 II with pro app full auto
https://photos.app.goo.gl/m11rph2XBTz6DMi2A
Samsung Galaxy S10+
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FRxa5bZuChsDMVid7
Fujifilm X-T3
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wDjpzNQ7tqqnr6QR6
Samsung in full auto looks disgusting as far as color rendition goes but has a lot of details with pretty strong sharpening.
The Sony Xperia 1 II, offers the most accurate colors with really good shadow details but by far the worst image quality.
My camera has the best image quality except from being just a tad too cold and overexposing slightly in the bright areas.
Did you use the regular camera app?
Oh I realized I used the stock android app, which by the way took a better photo than the Photo Pro app on this occasion.
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i think we can all agree that Sony's auto mode in stock app has been average at best. I wouldn't expect it to be that much better in the photo pro app either. Sony's camera system has always been best utilized using manual controls and that's why it's always been more of a niche product because most review sites only review the auto performance, turning off most IG/social media people.
You'd probably get much better results using the P setting in photo pro and tweak the few settings that are still available for manual control.
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On 2020-06-24 17:39:35, moogoo wrote:
i think we can all agree that Sony's auto mode in stock app has been average at best. I wouldn't expect it to be that much better in the photo pro app either. Sony's camera system has always been best utilized using manual controls and that's why it's always been more of a niche product because most review sites only review the auto performance, turning off most IG/social media people.
You'd probably get much better results using the P setting in photo pro and tweak the few settings that are still available for manual control.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2020-06-24 16:41 ]
When comparing to the other manufactures, the image detail hasn't been Sony's forte really.
Here I don't believe you can do anything about it in manual mode as auto mode in broad daylight is pretty darn good already.
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i disagree. sony's detail has always been good because it had higher mp than everyone else (before). they just had poor processing algorithms and their automode was always selecting the wrong scene or weird settings, even in broad daylight. the only way to test the camera's true ability is with full manual. comparing auto modes is not really a good test imho.
i mean, just look at those other sample pics from the chinese sites. those have much, much higher level of detail and clarity than your sample photo does. they're both in broad daylight. what's the difference? I think it's auto mode vs manual.
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Posted: 2020-06-23 17:02
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