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ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-11-18 19:10
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Hi guys, I get to go days without internet access nowadays, hence my infrequent posts. But I did stumble upon this post by Alpha Trion here on esato, and I think this is the best argument I've heard, and its so nicely put.

After reading countless posts about SE vs Nokia vs Samsung etc "SE is better because of this", "Nokia are worse because of that" etc etc people should realise that in this day & age IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE A LOYAL CONSUMER TO ONE PARTICULAR BRAND. Yes maybe we've all had particular issues (good & band) with a certain brand (phones & other products) & swore that we wouldn't go back to using that service/product/phone etc. But surely as a consumer we buy what we need, to suit our needs at that particular time.
For instance i've owned samsungs, nokia's, SE's (even motorola's!!) & at no point did the brand come into. I owned these phones because that particular model offered me the best camera/specs/size/weight/useful features etc that was on the market within my budget at that particular time, (well maybe not the motorola!).
Well I guess what i'm trying to say is "shop around", don't neglect a Nokia phone that may tick all your needs purely because its a Nokia & end up with an inferior SE model purely cause its "SE" (or vice versa).
At the end of the day you're only screwing yourself over.


So I guess this ends the SE vs Nokia war.
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OluYom
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Posted: 2007-11-18 20:15
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@ambyzown: You are a funny fellow. Some of us have pretty much said the same thing here on PNF over and over again, but no-one ever seemed to listen.

As I've said before, its a pointless war: buy what meets your need. I'ved used Moto, SE and Nokia over the years, depending on what meets my need per time.

Oh! And don't be too sure it ends the war. Like before, some people just won't listen. Sooner or later, some die-hard fanboys will lock horns again :sigh:
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brym!
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Posted: 2007-11-19 12:11
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On 2007-11-18 20:15:00, AYA wrote:
...And don't be too sure it ends the war.



I have observed here on this forum and my office environment that Nokia phone owners change/replace/upgrade their phones more often than SE owners. Is it that SE owners are more content with their phones or are SE phones more durable?

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-11-19 14:31 ]
chuksy
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Posted: 2007-11-19 12:42
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Nokia is fund of churning out phones every other month.....that might be a reason
abubakar
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Posted: 2007-11-19 14:01
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@amby & aya: my view on the "war" isnt whether one should be loyal to one or the other, but more as a litmus test on if u needed a phone, where would u most likely get what u are looking for. As said b4 (over & over!) no single company covers all markets with thier products. But eg if ur 16yr old nephew wanted his 1st phone and came to ask ur advise, without know all his phone needs, which way would u nudge him?

@brym: i guess SE users are more cost conscience and hence take better care of thier phones. To test that theory, ask ur nokia users whether normal wear and tear made them change or if it was an accident. Third option is whether a newer model came out. Aya belongs to that group. Most SE users have thier phones a yrs plus before they upgrade. It takes me 2yrs plus. (hence i'll be buying the P1 when it costs 17k!!!)
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Posted: 2007-11-19 14:42
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On 2007-11-19 14:01:41, abubakar wrote:
But eg if ur 16yr old nephew wanted his 1st phone and came to ask ur advise, without know all his phone needs, which way would u nudge him?


In which case, I'm sure that I'll recommend Nokia - not because I think that Nokia is better, but because Nokia has a wider range of models to choose from, and a greater availability of technical support (repairs, parts replacement, software, etc) here in Nigeria.
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abubakar
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Posted: 2007-11-19 16:28
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@aya: None the less, it is that aspect that i argue on, not on "product loyalty".
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Posted: 2007-11-19 17:16
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On 2007-11-19 16:28:18, abubakar wrote:
@aya: None the less, it is that aspect that i argue on, not on "product loyalty".


Sounds fair enough. But I doubt if everyone else brandishing "bows and arrows" are coming from that perspective.
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abubakar
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Posted: 2007-11-20 12:12
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@all: My bro told me about operamini 4.0 last week, saying it was great. as anyone here tried it yet? Im about to download it but im scared to lose my bookmarks, etc from my 3.1
OluYom
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Posted: 2007-11-20 13:43
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On 2007-11-20 12:12:37, abubakar wrote:
@all: My bro told me about operamini 4.0 last week, saying it was great. as anyone here tried it yet? Im about to download it but im scared to lose my bookmarks, etc from my 3.1


I've been using it for about 2 weeks now. Quite good. But I upgraded from Beta 4; not 3.1, so I'm not sure if the upgrade will preserve your bookmarks.
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pxthomas
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Posted: 2007-11-20 14:14
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On 2007-11-20 12:12:37, abubakar wrote:
@all: My bro told me about operamini 4.0 last week, saying it was great. as anyone here tried it yet? Im about to download it but im scared to lose my bookmarks, etc from my 3.1

sure you can retain your bookmarks. Just click on "save existing data" when installing

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brym!
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Posted: 2007-11-20 16:50
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The final version of operamini 4 rocks on my HTC Wizard. Very stable, no crashing or hanging like the beta versions. With this app and the new customisable HTC home screen, am no longer selling this WM device. Now strictly for the office while the W950(with 380+ mp3s) goes everywhere with me. Funny, I prefer using Operamini 2 mod. on my W950.
ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-11-20 23:33
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I agree with u Brym, Opera mini 2 modd on UIQ3 is very good. But I kinda dig the PC-Like view of Opera mini 4. I wonder why their desktop browser doesn't rock this much. The Russians seem to have gone to sleep, no more modded versions from them since 2.2

[ This Message was edited by: ambyzown on 2007-11-20 22:34 ]
adrusa
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Posted: 2007-11-21 08:47
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Opera mini 4 is good, I have been using it as the main browser (over celtel gprs) since it came out. It will certainly overwrite 3.0 or earlier versions, but you can save the existing data as previously suggested. In any case it is a worthy upgrade even if you have to reconstruct all your bookmarks.
ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-11-22 23:53
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Did you guys see an advert in yesterday's papers for Apple iphone? its already available in Naija, and its being sold for a giveaway price of N120k. Has anyone on this forum bought one yet?
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