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OluYom
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Posted: 2007-10-25 12:35
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@brym!: what makes you think yours is the final word? Expect SE fanboys to contest that submission
PS: I used to be known as AYA
ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-10-26 08:01
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On 2007-10-25 10:41:12, brym! wrote:
A final word on the SE v Nokia War:

Thanks Brym for finding that review. after reading it, I have resolved not to miss that phone. The only hinderance will be price, and with all the "flaws" the price may drop fast.
From the review I gathered that aside from price and egronomics Eldar would've been ok with the w960i.
As for the nokia vs se war, se still wins for me. Reason? though the N81 and N95 which fall in the same category as the W960i neither of them offers me a touchscreen UI, and as such do not tickle my fancy. Plus I find S60 awkward to use.
abubakar
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Posted: 2007-10-26 14:11
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@brym: anyone can post up bad reviews of any manufacturer and thier phone. It seems the war chiefs of nokia are reprehensive (or is it scared?? ) to go into head-to-head battle. The rules are easy:

RULE 1: PICK ONE NOKIA AND ONE SE PHONE WITHIN THE SAME PRICE RANGE (is within 3k acceptable to everyone?)

RULE 2: SPECS, PROPERTIES AND THIER PERFORMANCES ARE MATCHED UP. (I refrain from adding aesthetics cos beauty is in the eye blah blah...)

RULE 3: THE PHONE WITH THE BEST RESULT (assuming we can ever get to that point!) WINS THE ROUND AND THE POINT FOR ITS MANUFACTURER. THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHONE.

I believe that both manufacturers have enough phones in each stable to urk out 5 or more matches. Is everyone game? If so who proposes the 1st match up? The ball is in team nokia's court.

@pxt: the subscriber was vexing cos he paid for internet access 3wks earlier but hadnt had access from his computer. In normal bad cc fashion, instead of offering to renew his subscription (even though he was at fault for allowing 3wks to pass before complaining) they told him to return the next day. That is when he blew up.

@amby: im still waiting for the celtel postpaid info!
pxthomas
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Posted: 2007-10-26 21:55
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I cannot think of any good reason to compare a phone that is coming soon and one that is available. To cut a long story short i don't base my arguments on another man's views but rather proven facts. A fact is statement that is true all the time. Nokia N95, E90, E61i etc are factual statements of our time.
abubakar
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Posted: 2007-10-26 23:45
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@pxt: rule 1: choose a se and a nokia phone. I ddnt say which phone. Choose a EXISTING phone within the same price range. Is it so hard? The w960 isnt out so u cant know its price range or its specs.
abubakar
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Posted: 2007-10-27 01:19
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@pxt: but maybe as the N95, E90 and E61 are ur favs, maybe we should pair them up! i'll go online tomorrow and check prices and determine thier se "counterparts". Hope thier prices have come down.
pxthomas
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Posted: 2007-10-27 08:07
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On 2007-10-26 23:45:47, abubakar wrote:
@pxt: rule 1: choose a se and a nokia phone. I ddnt say which phone. Choose a EXISTING phone within the same price range. Is it so hard? The w960 isnt out so u cant know its price range or its specs.

I was not replying to your post. I was just emphasizing the need to wait for SE W960 to be available before any meaningful comparison is done even if it is against fellow SE P1
abubakar
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Posted: 2007-10-27 12:25
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@pxt: my mistake, my bad, my fault! But getting back to my post, i am not getting any reaction from the nokia fanatics. Are u guys checking the stats on ur own and finding nokia lagging? Or is everyone just not checking the thread this wkend.
pxthomas
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Posted: 2007-10-27 17:33
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On 2007-10-27 12:25:08, abubakar wrote:
@pxt: my mistake, my bad, my fault! But getting back to my post, i am not getting any reaction from the nokia fanatics. Are u guys checking the stats on ur own and finding nokia lagging? Or is everyone just not checking the thread this wkend.

Abu my brother no matter what goes on here or any other forum there will always be brand loyalist so make we talk another thing
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brym!
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Posted: 2007-10-28 06:49
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@All: Am I the only one experiencing slow speed on Celtel? It was really bad yesterday and it is continuing today, so I am back to Glodirect...reluctantly. I hope Celtel will address this issue sooner before glo digs a hole in my pocket.
@SE/Nokia war lords, do you guys need more ammo?

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-10-28 05:52 ]
ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-10-28 10:52
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Since no one has responded to Abu's comparism, I've put one up. These Phones are almost in the same price category and aimed at the same target market.
Sony Ericsson W910i N40k vs Nokia 5700 xpress music N39k

External Phone Features
Display Colour display Adjustable display brightness
262.144 colours (18 bits) TFT
Type: 240 x 320 pixels
Camera Digital zoom
Flash
Landscape mode
MultiShot
Night mode
Panoramic photo
Portrait mode
Phone display used as a viewfinder
Video recorder
Self-timer
Max. resolution: 1600 x 1200 pixels
Type: 2.0 Mpixel camera
5-way Directional key
External keys for MP3 player
Flashlight
Integrated antenna
Internet access button
Secondary camera
Vibrating alert

Internal Phone Features
Dynamic font size
Screensavers Downloadable screensavers
Themes Downloadable themes
User configurable profiles
Wallpapers Downloadable wallpapers
Internal memory 40 MB (Dynamic)
Memory card in sales package 1GB (M2) memory card
Memory card slot Memory Stick Micro (M2) memory card
RDS Stereo FM-radio
Integrated handsfree speaker
40-tone polyphonic ringtones
Downloadable ringtones
MP3 ringtones
Ringing tone composer
Voice command
Voice dialing
Voice memo
Messaging
Chat function
E-mail POP3
SMTP
IMAP4
Push e-mail/Instant e-mail
EMS
MMS
Predictive Text Input (T9/Ezi/iTap)
Quickshare
RSS reader
SMS Group messaging
Receive and send concatenated messages
Video MMS
Connectivity 3G Video calling
Bluetooth A2DP Stereo audio profile
Internet browser NetFront browser
Mini-USB port
Modem
Synchronisation Apple iSync
SyncML
PC-Modem connection
Synchronisation via USB on PC
Synchronisation via RS232 on PC
Synchronisation via Bluetooth
WAP 2.0
WAP browser
Available applications
Agenda
Alarm clock
Automatic key guard
Calculator
Calendar notes
Contactlist
Currency converter
Date and time notation
Games Downloadable games
Image editor Changing pictures, adding extras and
fullscreen mode
Zoom function
Java application support
Movie editor
MP3 player
Phonebook with groups
Photo album Changing pictures, adding extras and
fullscreen mode
Photo phonebook
Reminder list
Stopwatch & countdown timer
To-do list
Video player 3GP player
Other phone features Flight mode
Gesture recognition


Form factor Monoblock
Operating frequency Quad band
Data network EDGE
GPRS
HSCSD
WCDMA
Display Colour display Adjustable display
brightness
16.777.216 colours (24 bits)
TFT
Resolution: 320 x 240 pixels
Landscape mode
External phone features
Camera Digital zoom
Flash
Landscape mode
MultiShot
Night mode
Panoramic photo
Portrait mode
Phone display used as a viewfinder
Video recorder
Self-timer
Max. resolution: 1600 x 1200 pixels
Type: 2.0 Mpixel camera
5-way Directional key
External keys for MP3 player
Integrated antenna
Internet access button
Vibrating alert

Internal phone features
Dynamic font size
Screensavers Downloadable screensavers
Themes Downloadable themes
User configurable & Timed profiles
Wallpapers Downloadable wallpapers
Video wallpaper
Internal memory 128 MB (Dynamic)
64 MB (RAM)
Memory card slot MicroSD memory card
TransFlash memory card
RDS Stereo FM-radio
Visual Radio
Integrated handsfree speaker
64-tone polyphonic ringtones
Downloadable ringtones
MP3 ringtones
Stereo speakers
Text-to-speech
Voice command
Voice dialing
Voice memo
Messaging
Chat function
E-mail POP3
SMTP
IMAP4
MIME Via SMS
MMS Changeable MMS distribution list
Nokia Smart Messaging
Predictive Text Input (T9/Ezi/iTap)
SMS Changeable SMS distribution list
Group messaging
Receive and send concatenated
messages
Video MMS
Connectivity 3G Video calling
Bluetooth A2DP Stereo audio profile
Infrared
Internet browser XHTML browser
Mini-USB port
Modem
Push-to-Talk
Synchronisation SyncML
PC-Modem connection
Synchronisation via USB on PC
Synchronisation via RS232 on PC
Synchronisation via Bluetooth
Synchronisation via Infrared
TCP/IP support
WAP 2.0
WAP browser
Available applications
Alarm clock Radio as alarm clock alert
Automatic key guard
Automatic volume control
Calculator
Calendar notes
Currency converter
Date and time notation
Games Downloadable games
Image editor Changing pictures, adding extras and
fullscreen mode
Zoom function
Java application support
Movie editor
MP3 player Supports Windows Media Player
Phonebook with groups
Photo album Changing pictures, adding extras and
fullscreen mode
Photo phonebook
Reminder list
Remote printing
Stopwatch & countdown timer
To-do list
Video player Real One Player
Operating system Symbian OS 9.2
Type: Series 60 Third Edition Developer
Platform 3.1
Other phone features Flight mode
OluYom
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Posted: 2007-10-28 16:31
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@brym!: slow is not the word to describe Celtel GPRS in the last 24 hours. Painfully unreliable is a better term. Funny, but MTN GPRS is performing just as bad. I dread going back to GloDirect!
PS: I used to be known as AYA
brym!
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Posted: 2007-10-28 22:10
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@amby: For me, this comparison puts the 5700 ahead because it is a smartphone. Pick another price range and another set of regular phones. This is all too subjective anyway.
My point has always been that SE has lost that creativeness that produced such innovative phones like T68i, T610 and P800. Eldar statement captures my thoughts better in that review ... Nokia today has more SE spirit than SE itself. I look forward to better days for SE especially now that there's a change of guard at the top.
@AYA: Celtel speed has picked up, I hope it improves further. Damn Glodirect !
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abubakar
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Posted: 2007-10-28 22:35
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@amby: WOW! That was more than i bargained for! I'll go thru the stats and make my choice. Maybe we should narrow it down to the differences only. Anyhow, i would have loved to see a nokia fanatic post on up. It'll be very hard.

@pxt: this isnt to sway anyone to "choose" nokia or se phones. Its just to break the myth of nokia superiority. Im just tired of people knocking on se phones over issues (some credible, some not) and at the same time keep quiet on nokia faults. Thats why i want hard facts to compare the products. As i've said before, it also helps phone prospecters to make thier phone choice. Anyhow, what is ur take on amby's stats?
brym!
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Posted: 2007-10-30 13:20
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@All: So if price is not a factor which phone will you go for?
Me? These days I'm into smart, slim, light, and touch sensitive things(including phones). So, the HTC Touch would have been it for me. Hawks here in Nigeria are currently selling it for 90k and typical of Windows Mobile devices their prices rarely drops. So what's yours?
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