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tonylcc
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On 2017-07-02 09:30:53, badassmam wrote:
The XZ1 and XZs are near identical in terms of internal specs, XZP owners won't mind because of the 4K screen. I think the camera sensor could be slightly updated. I did see a prototype with slightly different design to the current XZ.
Regarding bezel-less displays, you have to consider the compromises of having such a design. You'd definitely lose the selfie camera which is probably the best on the market, you'd add a lot of thickness and so on. I'd rather have high quality hardware than lose it for aesthetics.
i would like to see thicker body, which makes bigger camera module(OIS), and bigger battery, i wouldnt really mind my phone as thick as X Compact(9.5mm) |
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Archdragoon
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Well if it's thick for something great then of course user would be happy.
What do you guy think about thicker camera module for optical zoom then ?
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RacSony
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On 2017-07-02 09:30:53, badassmam wrote:
The XZ1 and XZs are near identical in terms of internal specs, XZP owners won't mind because of the 4K screen. I think the camera sensor could be slightly updated. I did see a prototype with slightly different design to the current XZ.
Regarding bezel-less displays, you have to consider the compromises of having such a design. You'd definitely lose the selfie camera which is probably the best on the market, you'd add a lot of thickness and so on. I'd rather have high quality hardware than lose it for aesthetics.
"near identical in terms of internal specs" means XZ1 will have S820 instead of S835? I hope not....
" I did see a prototype with slightly different design to the current XZ"
Would you mind sharing how different?
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LumberjackX
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On 2017-07-02 13:41:39, RacSony wrote:
On 2017-07-02 09:30:53, badassmam wrote:
The XZ1 and XZs are near identical in terms of internal specs, XZP owners won't mind because of the 4K screen. I think the camera sensor could be slightly updated. I did see a prototype with slightly different design to the current XZ.
Regarding bezel-less displays, you have to consider the compromises of having such a design. You'd definitely lose the selfie camera which is probably the best on the market, you'd add a lot of thickness and so on. I'd rather have high quality hardware than lose it for aesthetics.
"near identical in terms of internal specs" means XZ1 will have S820 instead of S835? I hope not....
" I did see a prototype with slightly different design to the current XZ"
Would you mind sharing how different?
I guess he wanted to say XZ1 is equal to XZP from inside, not XZs . Except the 4K, it might be better.
Or maybe even SD836.
For 2018, I hope the 100% screen does not turn out to be real.
It would look ugly, hard to handle. Impossible to use cam without both hands.
For me screen/body = 77% is the perfect size.
Also 16:9 screen.
XZ1 can be my last high end phone depending on how it looks.
I'd give up on front speakers and stereo to have 16:9 screen.
If XZ1 is 18:9, I' ll wait XA2.
Helio P30 may be similar to SD660.
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badassmam
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My bad for not being clear, lets say XZ1 is like XZP without the 4K screen. I can't talk about prototypes in detail but lots of designs are being tested with some moving ahead and others not. An XZ Ultra that matches the specs of the XZP would look the same but just larger in footprint so imagine how unwieldy that would be, that's why the XA1 Ultra exists because there have to be some compromises.
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RacSony
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badassman,
Thanks for clarification.
wow, so XZ Ultra (or XZ1 Ultra? )is coming too, and it's bigger than XZP?
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kurtdean
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On 2017-07-02 21:06:18, RacSony wrote:
badassman,
Thanks for clarification.
wow, so XZ Ultra (or XZ1 Ultra? )is coming too, and it's bigger than XZP?
XZ1 Ultra according to badassman is basically an oversize xz premium with the same big bezels |
badassmam
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I never said that an XZ1 Ultra is coming, I mentioned that there 'perhaps' could be an old prototype that isn't very comfortable in terms of ergonomics. The XA1 Ultra on the other hand is a good size and is comfortable to use, anything larger than the XZ Premium won't cut it unless there can be a big increase in screen size. The side mounted fingerprint scanner makes the thing fat straight away so it demolishes my jeans pocket with such a footprint. Such a device wouldn't be competitive considering the Note 8 is coming and it will have a good screen to body ratio.
What I will say is that there is the intention to continue the Compact devices. If we get one this year it will most likely be another iteration of the loop design, if next year then the new design. I'm not convinced that it'll have the top end processor but I'd be happy if it has something like an SD820 with good optimisation. If it were to get the ultra slo-mo camera then that would be awesome for a device with a smaller screen. This niche has opened up again, I hope that Sony can deliver a proper successor to the Z1/Z3/Z5 Compact.
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cableguy
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+1 thats the perfect next phone for me, a compact with the camera tech of the XZ Premium, that would be enough of a reason for me to upgrade my Z5 Compact.
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LumberjackX
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I hope at MWC18, a XZ1s does not show up.
X Perf and XZs were completely unnecessary.
There is much more difference between z3 and z3+ than between XZ and XZs.
I'd like to see only one rear cam, bigger sensor. Something like 1/2.1" f1.6.
Hardware strong enough to record 3s of SSM.
If anyone here has contact with someony at Sony, ask to bring a white phone.
White looks great , you do not see fingerprints on the back panel.
Any solid info about XZ1 having QHD screen? Gazyekichi.com talks about this possibility.
By the way, would be XZ1 glass or alkaleido metal?
Hi @badassmam
Any chance too see a new tablet?
I also found this : http://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-[....]a-might-have-sony-own-cpu-chip
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tonylcc
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On 2017-07-03 11:14:42, LumberjackX wrote:
I hope at MWC18, a XZ1s does not show up.
X Perf and XZs were completely unnecessary.
There is much more difference between z3 and z3+ than between XZ and XZs.
I'd like to see only one rear cam, bigger sensor. Something like 1/2.1" f1.6.
Hardware strong enough to record 3s of SSM.
If anyone here has contact with someony at Sony, ask to bring a white phone.
White looks great , you do not see fingerprints on the back panel.
Any solid info about XZ1 having QHD screen? Gazyekichi.com talks about this possibility.
By the way, would be XZ1 glass or alkaleido metal?
Hi @badassmam
Any chance too see a new tablet?
I also found this : http://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-[....]a-might-have-sony-own-cpu-chip
[ This Message was edited by: LumberjackX on 2017-07-03 23:39 ]
if record 3s super slow motion, that's gonna be 96s video.....
And 5s video now is around 8MB, if 96s video, will be over 150MB...and recovery time need to be within 1s....That's hard
Bigger sensor and bigger aperture could be possible in the coming future, but i would really see bigger sensor with slightly lower resolution while providing pixel pitch more than 1.55um
also the reason why Sony dont put QHD(1440P) on smartphone is because QHD isnt not a regular resolution, you cant divide pixel in video with standard(720,1080,2160) perfectly on 1440P screen, while 720P,1080P and 2160P screen is possible |
goldenface
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I too would like to see a full specced new Compact, with a lanyard hook as well, please. If it has metal instead of plastic then that would be even better.
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LumberjackX
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http://gazyekichi.com/2017/07[....]はxperiaの歴史を変革/
Does anyone know if this site is faithful ?
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maloqs
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Looks like we have a new UAprof entry 
Compact model...wait....
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RacSony
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On 2017-07-05 12:24:36, maloqs wrote:
Looks like we have a new UAprof entry
Compact model...wait....
[ This Message was edited by: maloqs on 2017-07-05 11:27 ]
Can't find it.... Can you share the link?
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