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francoislr
Joined: Jun 15, 2006
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From: Pretoria, South Africa
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Whatever pisses off the rugby fans pleases me:) lol! I cant wait to read the papers, and hear all the chaps complain. Always wanting to be pleased by sport. Sport in my opinion is just something people use to get excited about just to escape the fact that their lives are miserable. Okay, maybe not exclusively, but people want to be entertained, pleased. So if you look at it in that way, they are finding meaning in something absolutely useless:) but in the same breath, it brings people together in happy beating each other up:) so there is my silly opinion, Francois, the critic of life:)
@ psycho, and everyone else, talking about the cops, not even half an hour ago, outside as usual, my friend Handsome is here, his car parked outside our yard, me sitting on the stoep, watching battlestar galactica and handsome standing and leaning on his car, talking to his beloved, when the cops pull up. At first the pass, stop, torch on, and back up up to handsomes car, then they pull into our yard...
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francoislr
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From: Pretoria, South Africa
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At that point i get up and approach the car. Handsome has had some brutal run-ins with the police before being black and having a car. So they ask me who he is, and who's car it is, so i explained it nicely. Then they left with their exhaust between their wheels. Just checking they say. Now if anyone has a chance to look for a video on youtube look for 'how not to get your ass kicked by the police' by chris rock. Classic video:) One of the points he makes is the following-get a white friend:) a white friend knows how to be polite to the police, and will make sure that you dont end up with a cap up your ass:) So psycho, get a white friend, he he he!
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psychonymphe
Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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From: Stellenbosch, S.Africa
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What?!! Dont black people drive in pretoria? As a matter of principle you really should have tuned them for disturbing the peace in your neighbourhood with their obnoxious racism.
It's precisely because i and many of my friends are white that the... |
psychonymphe
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police take issue. And in a town like Stellenbosch i dont really blame them for targetting white people... I just think the huge head many of them get is very wrong.
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jmash
Joined: Jan 18, 2006
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From: Nelspruit,South Africa
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Racist Cops will always be there,no matter what.And it's everywhere around the globe.Did you know that Marlon Wayans of the Wayans Brothers was arrested for stealing his own car?Why,because he's a black dude driving an xpensive car!I don't think it will ever change.
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brix25
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francoislr
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lol, all true. I just know for a fact it is not worth giving lip to cops, because i might get my ass kicked. In my experience taking down a rapist one time, police brutality is pretty bad, beyond the law, and they do not give a $h!te about anyones rights, and no court will give a bloody hell if you go and report anything the police did to you illegaly. And i have to be gay to run to Oprah. I refuse to be a martyr for the 'die polisie is mislik met my en ander onskuldige mense' arguement. There is much more value in dying for a worthy cause, and that aint it. Also, with last nights thing, the one cop was black, the other white, so yeah...
People amaze me, and that is why yesterdays happening makes me laugh so much. We complain about safety and security in our country, but when a cop looks at us funny we throw our toys out the cot and go on about human rights. In that little sense you give cops too much credit-they cannot magically see who is a criminal and who aint, and they never will be able to.
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francoislr
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From: Pretoria, South Africa
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The best is to accept the human element, some cops will be assholes, but in the same breath, if you are blameless and did not even look at them funny and know how to subtly give them the finger, by all means do, but today people want just about everything handed on a silver platter. That aint going to happen. The first thing that we will lose in this country if we want safety and security is privacy. You want one thing, you will have to sacrifice another.
Sorry if i offend anyone with this arguements, but people dont think. There are two sides to every arguement, and us as humans like to argue for the side we believe in. I believe in truth, so once again i argue for whatever side will challenge people to try to think of the situation from both sides.
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psychonymphe
Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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From: Stellenbosch, S.Africa
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The law can only be as effective & moral as those who are entrusted with keeping it. And if a cop takes things into his own hands once, he'll do it again & again.
Do you know how many times a policeman has demanded cigarettes from me? Is that peaceful?
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psychonymphe
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From: Stellenbosch, S.Africa
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And i have no prob doing that til i see how lazily they work. They never pitch up anywhere in this town when called! Im being dead serious. When it comes to personal grievences there is only ever 1 side to a story. Bottom line here is unaccountability.
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Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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I have a huge respect for police officers, even though i've been on the receiving end (i deserved it, i may add) of police violence a time or two. For a number of years i did voluntary duty as a police reservist, so i've seen the circumstances under which they work. They see the most terrible crime-scenes imaginable, are vilified by the public in general, and work for a pittance. So often they're hampered by regulations which prevent them from doing their jobs effectively, and are subjected to the whims of pen-pushers who've never seen rigorous active duty. What's downright scary is that there isn't even enough money to buy body armour for each police officer... who of us haven't heard shots fired, either in our own neighbourhoods or close by? Well, imagine being a cop on patrol... without body armour... and at the back of your mind is the knowledge that even a little .22 bullet can penetrate the bodywork of the vehicle in which you're travelling.
Like i said, i have a huge respect for police officers...
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amawanqa
Joined: May 08, 2004
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From: Hornchurch UK & East London SA
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On a much lighter note...
I wonder if this was the work of a particularly talented esatonian while on holiday...:
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francoislr
Joined: Jun 15, 2006
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From: Pretoria, South Africa
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lol! That picture is quite, um, creative! Wish i had time to waste on sandcastles.
Like i might have mentioned before, corruption is the achilles heel in our country. Cops do not get enough for what they do, so yeah, what motivation do they have?
But if one can get a corrupt cop in action(camera phones are great for that) then good.
My friend Handsome and his brother were driving around the one night, and got pulled over by the cops and thrown in the back of a cheesevan. Apparently 2 black guys stole a golf in the area, and they perfectly fit the description of the suspects. While in there a bunch of officers came and swore at them and made intense racist remarks. One lady came and sprayed pepper spray into the back of the van almost suffocating them, being racist and vulgar. Eventually the cops realised they got the wrong chaps, and first made sure all the suspect cops fled the scene before letting them out. A perfect example of corruption. Handsome was not impressed...he was highly pissed off...
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francoislr
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It was very wrong what happened to him, and despite his anger he chose to forgive and let go. There was nothing else to do.
You know, he is a great guy for that. How much do we as people just bitch and moan, and not forgive and go on as if the world owes us everything? Handsome sets a great example. He would have pursued a case if he could have, but with pepper spray you cannot see the difference between a badge number and a phone number. And he chose to rather just let it go. And he did not speak to many about it. Look, bad things are going to happen to us, but there are many worse things happening out there, and there will never be justice for those things. One has to know when to let go and when to rip out the phone and record a video clip of injustice and have the guilty party get the crap they deserve.
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psychonymphe
Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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From: Stellenbosch, S.Africa
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@kryptik, many people in SA are paid next to nothing. For example nurses. The circumstances under which they work are also often atrocious. But is it okay for a nurse to dismiss procedure? Not in my mind, no matter how i can empathise. Patients need to... | |
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