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mario2002
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Buddy, what is technically possible and economically fissible can be very very different ! Today you could have a nice holiday on the moon if you so wish, but you don't. Why not ? I can assure you it can be done. Greetings from Jeffreysbay. Mario :-)
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Tahir Ally
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TODAY someone from Vodacom told me MTN will launch 3G in April..........Vodacom only got 3000 customers for the Vodafone mobile connect card.
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brix25
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3000 customers is quite bad considering all the marketing that has gone into 3G.
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Rhino8
Joined: Jan 07, 2005
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From: South Africa (Bloemfontein)
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Well vodacom should advertise 3G as competing against telkom. Coz the data rates is quite competitive with telkom dial up.
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Tahir Ally
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MTN WILL BE LAUNCHING EDGE IN APRIL. IT will cover only 20% of MTN coverage.Visit www.mybroadband.co.za for more info
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brix25
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Would anyone consider that local networks in their haste to adopt 3G may have bowed to pressure from international suppliers like Ericsson buy technology that is yet to prove itself outside Japan.
WiMax, iBurst and a slew of new technologies still being developed will ensure that 3G is old hat before it has even reached 5% of the South African population.
3G might be good in rural areas where there's not much of a telecommunications infrastructure but in urban centres people wanting broadband connectivity will be spoiled for choice- that choice might not be UMTS/3G.
The challenge for phone companies like Vodacom and potentially MTN would be to slash their rates to competitive levels- once new competitors come on stream they would've already captured most of the market.
The fact that Vodacom have only convinced 3000 people to buy up the Vodafone mobile data connect card should be an indicator that their prices are ridiculous- even if a lot of freebies are thrown in.
Just give me cheap data- at least cheaper than the nearest competitor and I'm happy. Right now though a 3G phone will have to wait.
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Tahir Ally
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@ Brix Wifi,Wimax,IBurst,Sentech will not beat the mobile operators.Sentech and iburst customers are having shit loads of problems.I am not say 3g customers are not having problem but if you read and surf the net you will see customer who are not using 3G are complaining,they are more offline than online.IBURST AND SENTECH rolled out coverage before Vodacom.But Vodacom has better coverage than them just on 3G.Voda is going to upgrade 100 sites to 3G in next 9 months.Iburst and Sentech have 2500 subscribers each.IBURST MAX SPEED IS 1meg a sec.IBURST and Sentech you have to pay about R2800 for modem..Voda giving them for free on contracts.Voda will have 2meg a sec just now than Voda will have HSDPA max of 14.4 meg a sec.When new tech becomes availble the cell companies will always lead.WHY BECAUSE THEY HAVE PLENTY OF $$$$$.Vodacom SA only has to increase its market share by 1% to pay for its entire 3G INVESTMENT and thats easy for them.3G prices will come down .
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Rhino8
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Well i said it bedford, and im saying it again.... If voda got prices to compete with telkom, which is in 90 percent of cases the only know connection to the net, it will take off.
You use your phone as a modem, so no matter where you are, you got a connection. And then vodacom should advertise it as a competitor to telkom.
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JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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telkom owns part of vodacom, didnt you know that!! but not for long... |
CodeMaster
Joined: Feb 18, 2005
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I actually thing that it would be a good thing if Hellkom sold their shares to Vodafone...
Tellkom is holding Vodacom back, and I believe the Vodacom could then be a real competition to Telkom. What would Vodafones share be if they bought out Telkom, about 50% ???
Just my 2 cents worth.
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JK
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SOMETHING like that... i heard that some shares will be for voda staff. |
OluYom
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On 2005-04-01 00:01:11, brix25 wrote:
Would anyone consider that local networks in their haste to adopt 3G may have bowed to pressure from international suppliers like Ericsson buy technology that is yet to prove itself outside Japan.
WiMax, iBurst and a slew of new technologies still being developed will ensure that 3G is old hat before it has even reached 5% of the South African population. |
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Well articulated point. I am yet to find a justifiable reason for any GSM network rolling out 3G on the continent, especially taking into consideration the cost of setup and the rather harsh tariffs passed on to subscribers as we have witnessed across Europe.
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Rhino8
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I might be wrong, but i heard that telkom owns 51% and vodafone 35.... Will have to make sure bout that thou.
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brix25
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People have been talking a lot lately...Vodafone wanting to buy the whole of Vodacom, MTN a possible takeover target from an overseas operator....
First off since it's my business to be informed about current happenings...The Telkom CEO-Sizwe Nxasana- has vowed that Telkom won't sell it's 50% interest in Vodacom because it's of strategic importance to the future of Africa's largest telco.
Talk of MTN being a takeover target is mere market speculation- they would like it to happen but it's unlikely to happen if the possible buyer is willing to part with billions of dollars.Yes, that's what MTN is worth.
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Tahir Ally
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BREAKING NEWS:Vodacom will have HSDPA from this month.It will deliver speeds up to 2mbps when launched.HSDPA max speed is 20mbps.HSDPA is like EDGE for 3G.HSDPA IS ONLY A SOFTWARE UPGRADE FOR 3G no new infrastructure need.All evolutions on 3G are software driven.When Vodacom gets SUPER 3G which max speed is 100mbps WiMax will be SLOW.Wimax max speed is 70mbps.Super 3G will hit our shores before 2010.Also Vodacom will rolling out 1000 3G basestation for this year.HSDPA is currently only available @ VODAWORLD.................MTN will launch EDGE this month and by the time they launch 3G Vodacom will be away
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