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DickySnapples
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so if  had all these ideas. Why didn't they just make it themselves |
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tonchy
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On 2008-02-14 01:42:43, laurenke01 wrote:
I can't believe SE had limited input in regard to the specs/design on the X1. I mean, it's ridiculous to think SE went to HTC and said, "Hey we have this idea for a phone..." to which HTC said, "Say no more," disappeared, and a few months later had a working prototype.
What is more likely is that SE went to HTC with explicit instructions, designs, and expectations, after which HTC built the phone to SE's specifications.
The brawn may be have been HTC, but the brains were SE.
That being said, I too am looking forward to the P5i because I believe it will be an even better product.
[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2008-02-14 00:43 ]
If that was the case then why
No M2?
No Fastport?
3.5 mm?
SD only?
overall very similar specs to TyTnII.
@Dicky
IMHO the only idea was to get market share. WinMo is a big pie and  wanted a piece 
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laurenke01
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@Snapples: I don't know - Limited resources/knowledge of WM? Why don't you ask SE?
On 2008-02-14 01:47:56, tonchy wrote:
If that was the case then why
No M2?
No Fastport?
3.5 mm?
SD only?
overall very similar specs to TyTnII.
Easy - As a WM product, it appeals to an audience of people who have likely never heard of or used any of Sony's proprietary stuff. They'd be clueless and therefore not buy the product. By having "normal" things found on "normal" phones, it appeals to a broader range of people.
Plus, current WM users looking to upgrade will probably already have a host of hardware and whatnot that would be completely useless if SE went with their proprietary stuff...which would piss off potential customers and cause them to buy something else.
As for current SE users who are familiar with fastports and whatever...well, this product may not be for them. That 's where the P5i comes into play.
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DickySnapples
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On 2008-02-14 01:46:18, Mizzle wrote:
Dogmann,
First of all, a small welcome and a big farewell for when you'll be leaving... again.
What's better about E90 than X1? Oh, and just so you know. It's not SE's fault the device won't come out soon. It's Microsoft's fault, and it all depends on when they'll announce the OS. Which was also why didn't state Q3 / Q4, but instead did a "2nd half 2008" statement.
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Surely its 's fault for deciding to go with an os that isn't even ready yet
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Arne Anka
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On 2008-02-14 01:47:00, Dicky Snapples wrote:
so if had all these ideas. Why didn't they just make it themselves
If the rumor is true, it can be that HTC has more experince of WM development than SE, so HTC focuses on X1 and SE on their non-WM devices. |
BobaFett
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@mizzle they could launch it with wm 6.0 then they shouldnt wait... later xperia users could make an upgrade for a newer wm os...
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tonchy
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On 2008-02-14 01:51:23, laurenke01 wrote:
@Snapples: I don't know - Limited resources? Why don't you ask SE?
On 2008-02-14 01:47:56, tonchy wrote:
If that was the case then why
No M2?
No Fastport?
3.5 mm?
SD only?
overall very similar specs to TyTnII.
Easy - As a WM product, it appeals to an audience of people who have likely never heard of or used any of Sony's proprietary stuff. They'd be clueless and therefore not buy the product. By having "normal" things found on "normal" phones, it appeals to a broader range of people.
If the idea is to appeal then Either X1 should have had both worlds in one. fastport, 3.5 jack, M2 and MicroSD (just like k850 for the Microsd and M2 card) or would have dropped the M2 and Fastport on new pphones. i did not see either happening.
so please let's stop being naive and blindly claim the X1 is a cutting edge device from coz it is neither cutting edge nor from
sorry if i sounded too negative but it is just my opinion.
I am a true SE fan since the T610 and i was thrilled when i heard the announcement but a little disapointed later when i found oout about the specs and that it will hit the shelves in more than 6 months.
Edit: Ok i know it is from it just does not feel like. (from the videos and pictures )
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laurenke01
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On 2008-02-14 02:00:38, tonchy wrote:
Edit: Ok i know it is from it just does not feel like. (from the videos and pictures )
I know what you mean--and like I said in my edit, for people who want a "pure" SE product...that is what the P5i will be for which is personally the device I will be getting even though I was impressed by the X1.
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Dogmann
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@Mizzle
I would prefer it if you didn't engage with me at all but then life is never perfect is it, and i don't need your false welcome back and don't count on my farewell just yet as i was requested to come back and have no plans on leaving any time soon much to your disappointment I'm sure. Oh well at least there are still some pleasures left in life but send me a PM like the last one and we will see what happens then shall we.
As for what's better about my E90 well to start with it's here and being used now not some pipe dream over half year away and that's just to start with.
The smaller processor is less power hungry and the the extra power isn't needed as Symbian is less processor intensive then WM so also more power efficient to and my E90 has a 1500aMh Li-Polymer battery whats the X1 got then?
It may have 128 less pixels but has 16 million colours as opposed to what is it 65k. The E90 has one of the acknowledged best browsers found on any mobile devcie whilst the X1 has what PIE. Those are just the things that spring to mind and i don't need to continue against a devcie that we know so little about as the list just goes on and on. Especially as just how critical UIQ users were of WM until SE uses it and then low and behold it suddenly becomes just so great.
As for this well it's just so funny
" It's not SE's fault the device won't come out soon. It's Microsoft's fault, and it all depends on when they'll announce the OS. Which was also why didn't state Q3 / Q4, but instead did a "2nd half 2008" statement."
It's never SE's fault is it and if it is Microsoft's fault why bother announcing a devcie that wont to be around for 8-9 months and not announcing the P5 which i would imagine still runs thier own UI over Symbian first especially if it is due to launch first as well especially if it's meant to be so amazing? I just don't get why SE find it impossible to announce a devcie when it's ready to launch instead of when it's still over half a year away at least.
What's the point in announcing devcies so far ahead and the spec's announced are all very now by the time it reaches the market it's likely to have been surpassed by others a bit like what happened with the P990 yet again looks good on paper but by the time it arrives it's all old and past it. SE wasted the opportunity to announce their flagship Symbian device it's users are crying out for in favour of a competitors OS that won't launch till late this Year, jeez there marketing sucks as much as thier communication with thier users does.
Which reminds me just when can we expect the answers to the 10 questions you asked and assured us all would be answered soon as just how long ago was that now as it seems like a very long time ago now to me? In fact the 10 questions were sent 19-11-2007 which is nearly 3 months ago now, i know you have given a few explanations for the delays but any updates on if and when they are coming?
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G-Izzat
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The smaller processor is less power hungry and the the extra power isn't needed as Symbian is less processor intensive then WM so also more power efficient to and my E90 has a 1500aMh Li-Polymer battery whats the X1 got then?
I think I heard the Sony Ericsson representative said that the X1 would have a 1500mAh battery. |
prototype_bo
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@ Dogmann
for sure, you like writing big messages. but just an advice, if you love your phone, well that's good for you. i have an e90 too, it's a good device. no in fact it is very good. but in my opinion, X1 will outrun it because of one thing: Touch screen.
i'm definitely sure, you'll agree that touch screens offer a decent degree of freedom of handling the device.
PS: your phone is good, AND the x1 is good. so understand that you can't change the hype or the affection the people have over it.
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BobaFett
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yeah, but nokia will have its own touch screen fone, next to it, i dont think, that nokia users would go for the xperia ( and the e - n series club is really big ) jst because of the touchscreen. if sy loves wm solution, then the one will take htc rather, then xperia, ok, some of them will give it a try, but the majority will stick to htc imo.
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thecell
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many WM user dissappointed coz the Camera and Sound just so-so , they want better WM PDA with better camera and Sound, and yes SE answer them now.
I think this X1 device will exclusive for SE only.
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tonchy
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I hope i am wrong but if the camera and sound has been handled by HTC then we will have a very bad camera and an OK sound. 
This is based on the TyTNII i tried. camera is also 3MP
Again, as a fan i hope i am wrong!
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mib1800
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On 2008-02-14 06:55:26, tonchy wrote:
I hope i am wrong but if the camera and sound has been handled by HTC then we will have a very bad camera and an OK sound.
This is based on the TyTNII i tried. camera is also 3MP
Again, as a fan i hope i am wrong!
[ This Message was edited by: tonchy on 2008-02-14 05:58 ]
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