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geniusming
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On 2013-04-30 13:26:15, randomuser wrote:
I can't confirm Xenon. I can only confirm the following -
Qualcomm MSM8974 S800 (clock speed unknown)
2 GB RAM
1/1.6" Exmor RS Camera 12-20 mp
All new image processing algorithm
3000/ + mah battery
Glass + Metal construction with Carbon fiber
Walkman audio chip S Master
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-04-30 12:32 ]
Battery 3000+ is awesome!!! 
Must buy!!! |
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Xajel
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On 2013-04-30 13:40:17, JoJotaro wrote:
@maloqs The S800 is built to not have a constant clock speed on either of its 4 cores. Limiting its MAX speed to 1.7Ghz shouldn't gain you anything other than lower performance.
Not 100% true,
The S800 ( along most mobile parts ) actually changes the clock speed depending on the workload, so the more the work is there then the CPU will increase the clock to finish the work, the SoC will normally goes to the highest clock allowed ( by design or kernel )... if there's very light work or no work ( like standby ) then the CPU will be on it's lowest clock and some CPU designs will turn off some cores ( for multicore design ) or even switch to another low power core ( for hybrid designs like NVIDIA companion core and ARM's LITTLE.big design )...
It's a fact that the higher the clock the more energy, so in case there's some heavy workload like gaming the clock will go the the highest clock allowed... if the SoC was limited to 1.7 instead of 2.3 then it will stop at 1.7... and at that situation then it will consume less energy than running at 2.3.. and also decreasing the heat output also...
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pmugghc
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Re benchmarks: Randomuser told us Honami would crush the competition, presumably in performance too. Now we're learning that won't be the case. So the benchmark discussion is as valid as any discussion re camera, battery etc. |
kurtdean
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On 2013-04-30 13:26:15, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-04-30 13:21:55, Ambivalent_ wrote:
On 2013-04-30 13:01:32, randomuser wrote:
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0.2ghz clock speed increase doesn't give you 5k extra in Antutu. Get real
2.3ghz S800 scores 34000. 2ghz Exynos will score about 30k and 1.7ghz S800 will also score about the same. In most other benchmarks S800 will be faster than Octa and GPU performance is 2x more.
Look;
Ex Octa @ 1.6 ghz = 28.000
Ex Octa @ 1.8 ghz = well over 3000, presumably 31.000 and change
So thats a 3000 plus increase in points for 200 mhz more.
So it's safe tu asume that Note 3 with 2.0 Ghz will be close to 35.000, performing like a full S800 with 2.3 Ghz clocks.
Btw. since you have info on camera, can you confirm Xenos in final version?
@Jubei1; I hope your theory stands.
Who said 1.8ghz exynos scores 31000?
Do you know that all those leaked benchmarks Octa was running at 1.8ghz due to pre release software ?
Extra 200 mhz will only give you 1k more. Nothing more than that.
I can't confirm Xenon. I can only confirm the following -
Qualcomm MSM8974 S800 (clock speed unknown)
2 GB RAM
1/1.6" Exmor RS Camera 12-20 mp
All new image processing algorithm
3000/ + mah battery
Glass + Metal construction with Carbon fiber
Walkman audio chip S Master
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-04-30 12:32 ]
Glad the battery is 3000mah+ huhuh  |
jianlin
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btw min 3000mah / + XR5 ramu?  |
vikeviki
Joined: Oct 16, 2012
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On 2013-04-30 14:34:37, pmugghc wrote:
Re benchmarks: Randomuser told us Honami would crush the competition, presumably in performance too. Now we're learning that won't be the case. So the benchmark discussion is as valid as any discussion re camera, battery etc.
I just want to quote to you,there is neither the phone release nor any one has seen the phone with the benchmarks leaks
presuming the things and qualify as though it beats samsung note 3 is really ridiculous
and part of the rumour thread yes we can discuss any thing we need,but not this extent making thread useless,
if ramu has mentioned it beats every other phone let us wait till the perfect Rumous is been leaked. |
JoJotaro
Joined: Dec 17, 2012
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@Xajil True. But the SoC will only reach 2.3GHz if needed. Limited at 1.7GHz when more is actually needed would either crash the application/system or push the SoC to its max more often... Anyway, it doesn't make sense to me to limit the SoC unless they did a bad job with handling the heat generated maybe... |
jianlin
Joined: Oct 17, 2012
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http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
there u go...200 mhz different in s4 and htc one score 500 different...if one sony clock 1.7ghz...it is 600mhz different..
so...i would say that geekbench score is at lst 1k different...
and interesting here is 1.6ghz score almost 500 more than 1.9ghz s600... |
stook
Joined: Oct 22, 2007
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the latest mobiles are fast enough to me. I would better see lower clock rates and longer battery life |
randomuser
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On 2013-04-30 14:47:41, jianlin wrote:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
there u go...200 mhz different in s4 and htc one score 500 different...if one sony clock 1.7ghz...it is 600mhz different..
so...i would say that geekbench score is at lst 1k different...
and interesting here is 1.6ghz score almost 500 more than 1.9ghz s600...
That's not accurate as browser benchmark has more to do with browser optimization and not CPU clock speed. S4 scores high because of stock Samsung browser and not the extra 200mhz clock speed. 
My Xperia S with stock Sony browser scores same as HTC One. That doesn't mean that S3 scorpion = S600 quad. There a lot of factors that are taken into account and not just clock speed
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JoJotaro
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@jianlin If I'm not mistaken the S800 shouldn't score the same as the S600 at the same clock speed... You can't compare SoC benchmarks like that... The Octa wouldn't score the same at the same clock speed either... Plus software optimization also changes score... Also try running the same benchmark again on the same device it won't give you the same result...
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randomuser
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So let's stop this argument here now. It's pointless. We can discuss when Togari and Note 3 release.
And yes the info I confirmed are all XR5 |
jianlin
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That's not accurate as browser benchmark has more to do with browser optimization and not CPU clock speed. [ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-04-30 13:53 ]
Geekbench is able to measure the performance of all the processor cores in your system. Every processor benchmark is multi-threaded and multi-core aware to show you the true potential of your computer. Geekbench provides a comprehensive set of benchmarks engineered to quickly and accurately measure processor and memory performance.
jz make a clear that it is not browser benchmark.... |
nightwing369
Joined: Mar 18, 2013
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On 2013-04-30 13:40:45, nightwing369 wrote:
Why is Sony leaving it this late with its online announcement of the Dogo?? (It's meant to be releasing it in the next few weeks!) ?
[ This Message was edited by: nightwing369 on 2013-04-30 12:44 ]
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0 |
FMW300
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Because it's better to announce, with release in 1-2 weeks with the product still fresh in ppl's minds, than release several weeks after announcement. This is one thing better that Sony is doing; reducing announcement to release time.
T230 > W300 > W890 > W705 > Live > Xperia T > Xperia Z2a > Xperia X > Xperia XZ2 |
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