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kurtdean
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On 2013-04-30 12:59:32, Ambivalent_ wrote:
On 2013-04-30 12:13:13, randomuser wrote:
Note 3 stands nowhere near Honami. Exynos Octa is barely faster than S600. Even 1.7ghz can handily beat 2 ghz Exynos Octa. And the GPU on S800 is 2x faster than Exynos Octa.
Ex Octa barely faster than S600!? Oh c'mon man, Ex Octa scores 5000 points higher on AnTuTu! That's not barely.
So Ex Octa scores 28.000 points with a 1.6 Ghz cloack. The Korean version with it's 1.8 ghz/per core should go pass 30.000 points and Note 3 with 2 Ghz will be in the realm of 35.000.
So, keeping in mind that S600 with 1.9 Ghz scores 23.000, S800 would have to be 50 percent stronger than S600 to be comparable with Ex Octa and all of that would have to be done with lower core frequency.
Here are some links for the data I used:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsun[....]-600-according-antutu-1183361#
http://www.sammobile.com/2013[....]ills-qualcomms-snapdragon-600/
Snapdragon 600 is not snapdragon 800 bro. Im sure snapdragon 800 will beat Galaxy note 3 processor |
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Jubei1
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S800 will not be clocked at 1,7 GHz in retail products (just like there wont be any "custom" Qualcomm chips for Sony)
The whole point of using S800 is because its built on a HPM (high k+ metal-gate) process node that allows it to have sustained performance at over 2.0 GHz speed. Thinking you need to clock them lower to save battery only shows a lack of understanding in how Snapdragon processors work. You dont need to clock it low to save battery, Krait is an asynchronous processor. That means if there is no task that requires 2,3 GHz processing speed, it wont run at 2,3 GHz, it will run at 600 MHz when you just flick through the UI, start an app and the CPU might jump to 1,2 GHz if needed.. start browsing heavy flash websites and you "maybe" will see 2,3 GHz but even then it wont be all 4 cores, they can independently shut down when they are not needed. The "turbo" to 2,3 GHz is actually more battery efficient than a 1,7 GHz top speed because it allows the CPU to finish its task quicker and then return to idle or the lowered clock speed
Also Adreno 330 is 2x faster than Octa in compute only. Android doesnt use the GPU for compute tasks much (until Google implements Renderscript for real) so the only measurable performance between them is glbenchmark type tests, in that scenario Adreno 330 is 40-50% faster
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randomuser
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Check Optimus G2 leaked benchmarks. It runs S800 @ 1.7ghz. |
Ambivalent_
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On 2013-04-30 13:01:32, randomuser wrote:
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0.2ghz clock speed increase doesn't give you 5k extra in Antutu. Get real
2.3ghz S800 scores 34000. 2ghz Exynos will score about 30k and 1.7ghz S800 will also score about the same. In most other benchmarks S800 will be faster than Octa and GPU performance is 2x more.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-04-30 12:04 ]
Look;
Ex Octa @ 1.6 ghz = 28.000
Ex Octa @ 1.8 ghz = well over 3000, presumably 31.000 and change
So thats a 3000 plus increase in points for 200 mhz more.
So it's safe tu asume that Note 3 with 2.0 Ghz will be close to 35.000, performing like a full S800 with 2.3 Ghz clocks.
Btw. since you have info on camera, can you confirm Xenos in final version?
@Jubei1; I hope your theory stands. |
JoJotaro
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@Jubei1 Exactly! Why would they ever want to clock it at 1.7GHz, limiting its strength, when the SoC its self can scale accordingly!? Do they want to worsen performance? |
randomuser
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On 2013-04-30 13:21:55, Ambivalent_ wrote:
On 2013-04-30 13:01:32, randomuser wrote:
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0.2ghz clock speed increase doesn't give you 5k extra in Antutu. Get real
2.3ghz S800 scores 34000. 2ghz Exynos will score about 30k and 1.7ghz S800 will also score about the same. In most other benchmarks S800 will be faster than Octa and GPU performance is 2x more.
Look;
Ex Octa @ 1.6 ghz = 28.000
Ex Octa @ 1.8 ghz = well over 3000, presumably 31.000 and change
So thats a 3000 plus increase in points for 200 mhz more.
So it's safe tu asume that Note 3 with 2.0 Ghz will be close to 35.000, performing like a full S800 with 2.3 Ghz clocks.
Btw. since you have info on camera, can you confirm Xenos in final version?
@Jubei1; I hope your theory stands.
Who said 1.8ghz exynos scores 31000?
Do you know that all those leaked benchmarks Octa was running at 1.8ghz due to pre release software ?
Extra 200 mhz will only give you 1k more. Nothing more than that.
I can't confirm Xenon. I can only confirm the following -
Qualcomm MSM8974 S800 (clock speed unknown)
2 GB RAM
1/1.6" Exmor RS Camera 12-20 mp
All new image processing algorithm
3000/ + mah battery
Glass + Metal construction with Carbon fiber
Walkman audio chip S Master
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maloqs
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lol does this matter?1.7ghz pupose is to lower power consumption and heat generated.(I hope they can lower price also) |
vikeviki
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Oh common guys be mature what the fuc%% processor you guys want ,why do you need benchmark score,its like college marks card,the more you read the more marks so the more you work on your phone and it needs more benchmarks,people use mostly for camera/player/whats app/gps/facebook.Quadcore is more than enough for us. We dont require those f**k%%g benchmarks,we need better design /audio.screen/camera.
NOte: Ramu, stop feeding those who want high benchmarks.let them create a new thread and move on
Damn this thread is being dungeon shit piece.  |
JoJotaro
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@maloqs The S800 is built to not have a constant clock speed on either of its 4 cores. Limiting its MAX speed to 1.7Ghz shouldn't gain you anything other than lower performance. |
nightwing369
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Why is Sony leaving it this late with its online announcement of the Dogo?? (It's meant to be releasing it in the next few weeks!)  ?
[ This Message was edited by: nightwing369 on 2013-04-30 12:44 ] Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0 |
-XYZ
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You people and your endless desire to see numbers go up. |
randomuser
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Well we can argue whole week but there is no point in doing that.
Finally it's up to the manufacturers. And somehow LG and Sony have decided to use 1.7ghz max clock. So all you should do is hope that the final versions don't get bottle necked. |
jianlin
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013[....]ile-dram-goes-into-production/
hmm...note 3 might use this 4gb ram instead...one sony cant be a cpu powerhouse...d exynos octa can enable all 8 core run at 1 time by xda dev in future if the tech geeks crazy for performance...
but octa 544mp3 lose adreno 330 for sure... 
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
Ops it is 4 gigabit...
By adopting Samsung's 4Gb LPDDR3 mobile DRAM, OEMs can have a 2GB package that includes four of Samsung's new chips in a single package that meets the memory package height of 0.8 millimeters (mm).
The 4Gb LPDDR3 can transmit data at up to 2,133 megabits per second (Mbps) per pin, which is more than double the performance of the preceding memory standard mobile DRAM (LPDDR2) with a data transmission speed of 800Mbps.
Dear Sony...Please put this LPDDR3 tech in One Sony...
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buns
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OT. why dont Sony advertise in their own television channels such as axn, animax ang beTV(SET)?haha.Its annoying that even samsung managed to have a smart TV tv ad in axn  |
randomuser
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All 8 cores also can't beat 2.3 ghz S800. 
Remember those are 4x A7 cores + 4x A15 cores and not 8xA15 cores. 
Developers can overclock S800 to 2.5, 2.6ghz too 
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-04-30 13:28 ] |
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