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Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:13
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Wasnt the TouchPro almost identical to the X1 hardware wise?And didnt the TouchPro come out before X1?
X1 was okay, but you had the 2yearold E90 at the time that had a better CPU, and larger screen. Wouldnt say X1 was realy ahead, but realy was refreshing in terms of design compared to other WMs thats for sure.
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:18
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These devices are actually very good. What is better than Vivaz and Vivaz Pro? The Nokia N97 replacement will be much more expensive. The X10 minis are unique and have a decent spec. Robyn is the square phone, the screen seems like that so that its UI works well. The UI is decent, it does what the X10 does but with less information on the screen at one time so hats off to them. Vivaz and Pro are the stand out devices in their segment.

My disappointment is that there should have previewed another 12MP camera phone. Nokia will show their one which is good but Nokia also have Symbian with multi touch capabilities. That's a good step forward, it means that Symbian fans won't have to move to Android for such features and it shows that they are caring for an important market. The Satio replacement will come but a sneaky peak would have been nice.

A phone capable of running WM7 would cause a massive fuss. Microsoft's announcement will definitely get huge attention and with that in mind, some really hot devices will emerge. That's one party that they look to have missed.

My final gripe is that the X10 minis are nice but the HTC Hero was a massive hit so why not bring something out like that as well. X10 is one of the best but something on the level of Hero would be special and another opportunity missed. I appreciate the thoughts and strategy of but HTC will have a killer line up and its so easy to have the spotlight shift away. Look at Samsung's Bada phone. Wow for the Super AMOLED and Bada but boo for no multi touch, that phone is in hiding now and it didn't take long at all.
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:23
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I feel so sad watching SE falling apart... Definition of self-destructive company...
What hapened to the company that bring to life ... p800 and t68 ???
GA628-GF768-T28-T39-T68-P800-K700-K750-P990-W910-C905-W995- ???
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:27
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as expected. But where is Abelin???
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:31
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GxlsbUSDRI
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:42
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http://www.se-first.com/Vivaz-pro-Live-Pics-Hands-on-video.html
http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-X10-mini-hands-on.html ---really fast!
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Posted: 2010-02-14 21:53
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On 2010-02-14 21:42:22, juris15 wrote:
http://www.se-first.com/Vivaz-pro-Live-Pics-Hands-on-video.html
http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-X10-mini-hands-on.html ---really fast!
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-02-14 20:43 ]



OMG Mini looks amazing. REALLY good job on the interface.
anders260
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:09
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does vivaz pro has 5,1 or 8,1

ony Ericsson Vivaz pro

Camera

5.1 megapixel camera
4x digital zoom
Auto focus (photos)
Continuous auto focus (video)
Face detection (photos)
Geo tagging
Image stabiliser
Photo light
Send to web
Smile detection
Touch capture
Video light
Video recording (720p HD recording)
XPHCTOC
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:13
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The X10 mini is the Iphone killer!!
Seriously I love it!!!
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:17
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Vivaz has 8.1MP and Vivaz Pro has 5.1MP camera.
Ultimus
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:19
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Disappointing show in my opinion. The minis are very interesting, but they seem to have very low battery life when looking at the specifications, something I hate. No, my personal favorite device from SE this year definitely is the Vivaz! Too bad it's still S60 and its MSRP is way higher here in Holland than in other parts of Europe it seems, at 499! Definitely too much for me.

I just hoped for some good mid-high end (feature) phones, but perhaps an event like this isn't the right time to annouce those. Oh well.

I do like what I hear about continuous software updates though.

I hope Nokia won't disappoint.
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:28
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On 2010-02-14 22:13:53, XPHCTOC wrote:
The X10 mini is the Iphone killer!!
Seriously I love it!!!

its not exactly killing it, but it could open a new market segment. there was always demand for something like an iphone nano(can anyone remember the P200 rumors back then or the hype around the N1(which compares in size)) . not everyone wants to have a nearly 4inch screen in his pocket, but companies were constantly pushing in this direction. the hands-on video @se-first.com shows that the UI works(which can't be taken for granted at this size) so i'm holding my thumbs for the x10mini.
TJMonkey15
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:47
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The original X10 still interests me the most. I hope it is released in early March!! I'm thinking that having a couple more Android phones (the Robyns) will motivate SE to give all versions of the X10s updates to newer Android OS revisions. Only time will tell I guess.
doministry
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Posted: 2010-02-14 22:51
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On 2010-02-14 21:13:37, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Wasnt the TouchPro almost identical to the X1 hardware wise?And didnt the TouchPro come out before X1?
X1 was okay, but you had the 2yearold E90 at the time that had a better CPU, and larger screen. Wouldnt say X1 was realy ahead, but realy was refreshing in terms of design compared to other WMs thats for sure.



TPro 2 was quite some time after X1.

X1 was almost on par with TPro 1.
TPro 1 had for instance much lower screen resolution.

As for E90 - AFAIK it had weaker processor than X1 platform.
330 MHz ARM processor.

And that was not a touch screen.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2010-02-14 21:52 ]
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Posted: 2010-02-14 23:08
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On 2010-02-14 22:51:46, doministry wrote:

On 2010-02-14 21:13:37, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Wasnt the TouchPro almost identical to the X1 hardware wise?And didnt the TouchPro come out before X1?
X1 was okay, but you had the 2yearold E90 at the time that had a better CPU, and larger screen. Wouldnt say X1 was realy ahead, but realy was refreshing in terms of design compared to other WMs thats for sure.



TPro 2 was quite some time after X1.

X1 was almost on par with TPro 1.
TPro 1 had for instance much lower screen resolution.

As for E90 - AFAIK it had weaker processor than X1 platform.
330 MHz ARM processor.

And that was not a touch screen.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2010-02-14 21:52 ]


Yes, TP1 AND X1 both corrected something the other didnt have lol, i would have picked X1 anyway.
What i meant by E90 having a better CPU was because it had a TI OMAP2420 with PowerVR MBX Graphics Acceleration which was the best in ARM11, yet ran at lower frequency: 332mhz.
Anyway sorry for being offtopic.
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