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Author 5 megapixel Sony Ericsson K850 Cyber-shot phone announced
Myuueren
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:30
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admad
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:39
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Guys please, don't be fooled by people who claim thoose photos are from k850i. U haven't even bothered to check the resolution of this pics. THESE PICS ARE FAKE. The resolution is 4MP, which u can't even choose in phone. THESE PICS HAS FAKE EXIF DATA. It's a joke, and You guys are almost to wank at these pics, it's pathetic.
Myuueren
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:42
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JuanPablo
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:43
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On 2007-06-22 20:39:17, admad wrote:
Guys please, don't be fooled by people who claim thoose photos are from k850i. U haven't even bothered to check the resolution of this pics. THESE PICS ARE FAKE. The resolution is 4MP, which u can't even choose in phone. THESE PICS HAS FAKE EXIF DATA. It's a joke, and You guys are almost to wank at these pics, it's pathetic.



Myuueren
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:43
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admad
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:49
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EXIF data contains very low informations compared to real k850i pictures. This EXIF data was prepared with a aplication. And you guys really belive that this CMOS sensor can do that pics? It's impossible seriously...

For example, real EXIF:
Make - Sony Ericsson
Model - K850i
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - R1AB056 prg12004401_HONG_KONG_SO 02.03
DateTime - 2000:01:02 07:39:18
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
ExifOffset - 134
ExposureTime - 1/4 seconds
FNumber - 2.80
ISOSpeedRatings - 160
ExifVersion - 0220
DateTimeOriginal - 2000:01:02 07:39:17
DateTimeDigitized - 2000:01:02 07:39:18
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/4 seconds
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MeteringMode - Center weighted average
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 5.18 mm
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 2592
ExifImageHeight - 1944
InteroperabilityOffset - 428
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 1.00 x
SceneCaptureType - Standard

Maker Note (Vendor): -

Thumbnail: -
Compression - 6 (JPG)
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 18018
JpegIFByteCount - 6622


And the fake one :
ImageDescription -
Make - Sony Ericsson
Model - K850i
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - R9JA001 prgCXC1250400127
ExifOffset - 172
ExposureTime - 1/60 seconds
FNumber - 4
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 200
Flash - Not fired
ColorSpace - sRGB

Hope it's enough...

Myuueren

This pic EXIF data is following:
Make - Sony Ericsson
Model - K850i
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - R9JA001 prgCXC1250400127
ExifOffset - 160
ExposureTime - 1/60 seconds
FNumber - 4
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 200
Flash - Not fired
ColorSpace - sRGB

It clearly states this is fake.

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Myuueren
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:52
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Myuueren
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Posted: 2007-06-22 20:58
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my ninja
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Posted: 2007-06-22 21:21
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the software revision however is far enough along r1 vs r9 ... that would account for the difference. well if someone went through all that trouble then hey more power to them. granted these pictures have a higher color depth than the screen. but itd be nice to see, i dont think that the phone was ready by a long shot if it was wed have the FCC information already ... and we dont! so ill wait.

SE PAINT THOSE BUTTONS!!!!!!! +WiFi

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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-06-22 21:24
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holey nice shit. the pic with the watch was awesome.
(my friend in SE Linköping told me that probably some shops in Sweden gets k850i
in august....i gone reserve one directly when its announced).

buy buy N95...have a nice life...he he he

-------------------------------------------------------------here some off topic:
to all Sweeds:
have a realy good (and rainy) midsummer evening.

(and if you dont know what midsummer evening is. its that day on the year when swedish people drink "moonshine" and dance around a midsummer pole. .....he he
it often ends that some people starts to fight about some silly girl (or whatever).
and its the brightest day of all days in nort europe, in example Kiruna (who actaully is the biggest city in the world)(not kidding), goes the sun never done...called midnight sun (you can sit and drink your moonshine under the sun at 00:00 a clock, very beatiful).

¤ with biggest city in the world, i mean that Kiruna have the largest space (square metre).

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kreacher
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Posted: 2007-06-22 21:43
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The quality looks amazing, too good to be from a mobile camera in fact.
Also the picture resolution is 2560x1920 while the K850 resolution should be 2592х1944.
mervy
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Posted: 2007-06-22 22:11
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Exactly two years ago, the k750 could do this!!



http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc069ph5.jpg

But the watch picture abt the k850 mentioned above is crystal clear with no noise at all. Have we come so far to be Perfect???
I can only wish!!
plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-06-22 22:14
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it was HUGE different between these two pictures.
djuro
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Posted: 2007-06-22 22:36
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hm.. different F-numbers?
K750 and K800 are always fixed at f/2.8. Also from SE presentation of K850 all photos are f/2.8.
And these photos form turkish forum some have f/2.8, others f/4, f/5.6 etc.
Hurst
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Posted: 2007-06-22 22:40
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im a bit skeptical about those pictures because that is a QUANTUM LEAP from k790/800, but if they are true, we have something special here

waiting for someone with some expert knowledge to explain the afformentioned issues regarding fake/real pic data? I have no clue...
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