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Finally! Free and Fullfledged gprs using Airtel Prepaid(India) |
AlanDS
Joined: Dec 29, 2005
Posts: 43
From: Karnataka, India
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Thanks niranjan & rahul
You both are simply great.
Anyone else? |
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abnerfurtado
Joined: Mar 28, 2006
Posts: 1
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hi every 1 n Hi Alan........dude pls help me ya... i can surf internet on PC but i cant do chatting on Yahoo, Msn, Rediff.......... i 've downloaded the latest messengers.......pls get some trick for this......again i am getting speeds of arround 5-6kbps.......pls tell me how to increase the speed.......as others in this thread are getting 40 kbps..... ia m using nokia 6021, which is edge enable.........pls reply.... thank you......
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jingboyx
Joined: Jul 12, 2005
Posts: 168
From: City of Seven Hills
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Here is my opinion. Lets exclude mo since it is absolute full internet and there aint any port blocking involved in it. Now lets consider the other gprs plans . . . Airtel live and nop. Both of them use the same ip address and the same port 8080. So i assume that the port 8080 is always open regardless of the gprs plan. The only thing the Airtel server gotta do is to check the url of the Airtel live subscribers to see if the url is pointing outside their portal and then send the access denied page. So i believe the firewall has nothin to do here. Besides firewall are foolproof and cannot be hacked by pooling excess traffic. They work in a sequential manner and extra traffic would be queued and dealt with sequentially. So i believe the problem gotta be with the Airtel proxy which checks the url. Alternately this type of error could be caused if any of the Airtel servers or proxies relies on UDP protocol rather than TCP for its communication.
This is my opinion guys but am still uncertain. . . |
AlanDS
Joined: Dec 29, 2005
Posts: 43
From: Karnataka, India
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On 2006-04-10 20:32:29, abnerfurtado wrote:
but i cant do chatting on Yahoo, Msn, Rediff.......... i 've downloaded the latest messengers.......pls get some trick for this......again i am getting speeds of arround 5-6kbps.......pls tell me how to increase the speed.......as others in this thread are getting 40 kbps..... ia m using nokia 6021, which is edge enable
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I think you are getting very lower speed. To be able to login to the messengers, you should have atleast 30kbps. How much signal you get from Airtel tower(BST)? & where u have checked the gprs speed(I mean in which site?) I think you know the difference b/w kbps & KBps
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AlanDS
Joined: Dec 29, 2005
Posts: 43
From: Karnataka, India
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On 2006-04-11 00:03:11, jingboyx wrote:
Here is my opinion. Lets exclude mo since it is absolute full internet and there aint any port blocking involved in it. Now lets consider the other gprs plans . . . Airtel live and nop. Both of them use the same ip address and the same port 8080. So i assume that the port 8080 is always open regardless of the gprs plan. The only thing the Airtel server gotta do is to check the url of the Airtel live subscribers to see if the url is pointing outside their portal and then send the access denied page. So i believe the firewall has nothin to do here. Besides firewall are foolproof and cannot be hacked by pooling excess traffic. They work in a sequential manner and extra traffic would be queued and dealt with sequentially. So i believe the problem gotta be with the Airtel proxy which checks the url. Alternately this type of error could be caused if any of the Airtel servers or proxies relies on UDP protocol rather than TCP for its communication.
This is my opinion guys but am still uncertain. . .
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Thanks jingboyx for the view/theory
Anyone else? Please post. Lets have some knowledge. |
abnerfurtado
Joined: Mar 28, 2006
Posts: 1
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Hi every1, ALAN thnks 4 d reply, dude i m getting connectivity speed of 115 kbps, but when i surf d sites its very low, as i 've checked d speed using a software known as netmeter, which shows 5-6kbps, even when i check my yahoo mail my account doesnt open, it shows me d same sign in page, whereas i can acess hotmail, but not a single mssenger, can u tell me how 2 get access 2 yahoo mail, i m using gprs by tunneling through airtelmms.com, as i tried all other tricks but no use.... I am a maharashtra subcriber, frm vasai......Pls also tell me d diff. Btwn kbps n KBps, thnk u .....Abner Furtado (nokia 6021)
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AlanDS
Joined: Dec 29, 2005
Posts: 43
From: Karnataka, India
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I think u r lucky as u get net through mms APN. Please note that the 115kbps is not the connection speed. Its the port speed. If u are getting 4-5KBps then its normal. Please multiply the speed u r getting with 8. That will give u speed in "kbps". By the way, have u configured the proxy settings in messengers? Yahoo has bug which cause problems in IE. So delete all cookies and try again. |
nikhilkerala
Joined: Apr 02, 2006
Posts: 0
From: Kerala, Tamil Nadu, B'lore
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@Alan,
Talking about solutions for Airtel, if it was me to find one, I would have simply seperated the LIVE! and MO server....
If they use another server for LIVE!, which runs a web server s/w on it and having all the contents of LIVE! stored on its HDD(we know, it's not much), there wont be any need for the real Internet connected to that server. Once there is no internet connection on Live! server, what ever we do, we gets only the contents of Live!, may be free downloads if we hack onto it.... |
ronny123
Joined: Feb 08, 2006
Posts: 19
From: Mumbai
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the airtel ppl know wats going on. Do u think they can't stop it? If they decide to they can stop it.they don't wanna lose their customers.many operators in uk also do this.
I was born brilliant,Education ruined me! |
Helloman2073
Joined: Apr 07, 2006
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had ne1 been able to make free pc to pc calls through Yahoo messenger? if not then pleeez try and find out a solution to this problem( freedom doesnot allow you to make free pc to pc calls). ne1 pleeeez help.... waiting 4 a positive reply.... |
jeevanravi
Joined: Apr 02, 2006
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This is for the guys who can access full wap on their sony ericsson
phones but cannot configure the opera mini (java version).I dont know
if this has been posted before.But i saw some guys having trouble with
the opera mini.So i decided to share my method.
i am using k700i and had the same problem.I connect to the net using
Spartan's Method 2 (live streaming).Then when i exit the browser to go
to Opera Mini,the connection is lost and opera mini returns an error
message even if i am accessing the airtel live homepage.The problem is
that sony ericsson doesnt have an 'Always On' GPRS feature.
Later i found out this.
Step 1-First of all u must be having full wap on your phone.I got this
by spatans method 2.
Step 2-Now go to operamini homepage http://mini.opera.com/#menu.Make a bookmark of this page.(In this method you will have to go to this page
every time you want to open the operamini)
Step 3-Click download opera mini.The file is about 100kb.Now the phone
shows 2 options,Download & Information.Select Download.
Now opera mini will get downloaded and will ask whether to be installed
in application or games.i chose applications. After that ,it will ask whether to start now.
SELECT YES.Opera mini is started and is ready to use.
You can access the entire net in it(because we havent exited the
browser and the connection is still live).And by that I mean the real
http sites (rendered vertically) and not the wap.
But you cannot access the wap sites or download any kind of files by opera mini.
Next time you want to use Opera,go to the Opera bookmark you made and
click download.It will show 2 options,Download & Information.Select
Download.THIS TIME IT ASKS 'DO YOU WANT TO REPLACE OPERA MINI' .
SELECT 'NO'.Then (SURPRISE),it asks DO YOU WANT TO START OPERA MINI?
SELECT YES.Thus Opera gets started and you no longer have to download
it again and again each time you use it.
This is my 1st posting.Those who couldnt use opera on SE phones please
try this out and give feedback.
Last but not least i havent thanked Spartan for letting us into the
world of free GPRS.i didnt even post a thank you as i was too lazy to
register in esato.
So i am using this oppurtunity to thank Spartan,the guru of free
internet and also AlanDS for all his wonderful guidance.Wish you all a
very happy Vishu
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rahul_mk
Joined: Mar 28, 2006
Posts: 19
From: Kerala ,India Nokia 6230
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@abnerfurtado how ur able to access net using spartan's trick. NOkia 6021 doesnt support multichannel gprs access
please tell how ur able to access it will be a great help to many people
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rahul_mk
Joined: Mar 28, 2006
Posts: 19
From: Kerala ,India Nokia 6230
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i am not able to use spartan's method 2 4 accessing wap on phone.Please help.I am using nokia 6230 .it supports live streaming and i am able to view aajtak and cnbc from it |
AlanDS
Joined: Dec 29, 2005
Posts: 43
From: Karnataka, India
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On 2006-04-11 07:22:40, nikhilkerala wrote:
@Alan,
Talking about solutions for Airtel, if it was me to find one, I would have simply seperated the LIVE! and MO server....
If they use another server for LIVE!, which runs a web server s/w on it and having all the contents of LIVE! stored on its HDD(we know, it's not much), there wont be any need for the real Internet connected to that server. Once there is no internet connection on Live! server, what ever we do, we gets only the contents of Live!, may be free downloads if we hack onto it....
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Yes. The idea is correct. The best method to stop is separate LIVE! and Airtel Online(NOP) gateway and put A Live! contents on a separate server which doesn't have real(full) internet connection!
Great Nikhil! |
AlanDS
Joined: Dec 29, 2005
Posts: 43
From: Karnataka, India
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On 2006-04-11 09:00:51, rahul_mk wrote:
@abnerfurtado how ur able to access net using spartan's trick. NOkia 6021 doesnt support multichannel gprs access
please tell how ur able to access it will be a great help to many people
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@rahul
He is using airtelmms.com APN which doesn't require multichannel gprs. |
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Posted: 2006-04-10 19:06
