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S4k1s
Joined: Mar 09, 2005
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From: Sweden
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@dave_uk: U must understand some of us are tired of these threads and see them as a joke they are ...
So we respond likewise 
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dave_uk
Joined: Mar 06, 2003
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From: London, UK
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@Sakis - sorry couldn't remember the exact alphanumeric combination 
I wasn't referring to anyone specifically, and not actually really you at all - although I noticed your comment in the NOKIA user's thread, which I suppose must be just as annoying to them as certain repetitious fanboy BS is to us
P.S. I notice that our friends have been nominated for an Esato Award...
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jafggl
Joined: Apr 19, 2005
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From: india
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Show me 1 se with 20x zoom,qcif video capability etc.The k750i got only 4x.Se should be compared with lg,moto,samsung.As se will have to cross them first before they can even look up to nokia.Wat ever u guys say or cry.Nokia tops.I used a k7 once and its phonebook crashed.
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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Some of the crap on this thread is just hilarious, but I think the creme de la creme is the comparison of evolution, culminating in the Nokia 7610 and the SonyEricsson P910i, and that you are actually claiming this as a point in Nokia's favour What are you even doing comparing them??
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This shows that you r only interested in what you want to see or read. I am not claiming anything for Nokia. It is just a quick response to the person who said "HDD phone" is nothing more than a brick with no technology advance.
I could'nt help taking a stab at P800->P910i brick. It is all about the "unvarying" factor called size of the PXX series.
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There is no point in going over old ground (I don't think I could add much to the essays scotsboy has already written on the subject anyway! )
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Maybe it is not old point after all. (i.e. why is the PXXX is still a brick after 3 generations).
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but you are again arguing that popularity equals superiority, which maybe a valid argument in the business mainstream, but is meaningless on a dedicated forum, which is not populated by Joe Public but by mobile phone enthusiasts, who, it would be fair to say, represent the more discerning element of the consumer base.
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What is superior btw? How do you measure superiority?
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With market leadership comes complacency and a strategy of profit over ethics. That may seem harsh but Nokia's long history of wheeling out model after model that is one feature different from it's predecessor is simply milking the market and holding back the progression of technology...because it is more profitable, which is fair enough.
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good. now we are getting somewhere. Now take a look inwards at SE and tell me something about the K700/K500, K608/K600, S600/S700 and W800/K750i and the numerous other combinations I have lost track of.
and lastly,
a "vs" thread would'nt be interesting (or even sickening to a point) if SE fanboys can only come out with retarded one-liner like "nokia sucks", "nokia camera sucks", "nokia Series 60 sucks", "nokia is a brick", "se camera is the best", "se thrash nokia".
I always thought everyone comes out wiser in a "vs" thread if points are presented coherently and are supported by reasoning. Of course, unless you have no interest to know or it pains you to know more. If this is the case, then please do continue to savour in your "SE is the best" bliss.
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Indiandawg
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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From: Mumbai
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All you need is to take the first step. Subsequent ones will be much smaller.
Nk3650 is a brick. 6600 is a smaller brick. 7610 is good size. (progress is made)
P800 is a brick. P900 is a brick. P910 is also brick. (no progress i.e. still stuck at stone or should I say "brick" age).
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OH GOD now m sure u have lost ur brains in antartica chilling out there in monsoon !!!
lyke communicator in nokia its P series in Sony Ericsson
oh well lemme tell u whtever it is NOKIA SUX and yeah i said it b4 dont talk abt sales cuz all the donkeys got nokia !!! and m sure lyke u there are many donkeys
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T200 -> T68i -> T610 -> K700i -> P910i
Nokia? 
Sony Ericsson  ? 
 A Company Dat Can Beat SE
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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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Can someone please tell me why WHY ppl keep bragging about stupid DIGITAL zoom??? It´s utter sh...!!! If they wanted they could put a 1000x digital zoom, but there was no point in it...as there isn´t in 20x or even 4x - it deteriorates the image for gods sake!!
Well, it´s typical nokia fanboy argumentation...
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weezur
Joined: Dec 11, 2004
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On 2005-06-21 06:53:11, jafggl wrote:
Show me 1 se with 20x zoom...
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show me also a Nokia with 10x digital zoom... me? i could live even with 2x optical zoom on an SE. digital zooms are rubbish, they don't need to zoom more than 4x, images that result get somewhat distorted. |
1tuf4b
Joined: Feb 24, 2004
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well i might as well add my 2 cents.
as mib1800 was comparing the 7610 to the p910 and calling the p series bricks even though the biggest difference is the hight of about 6 mm as ive read im not to sure in what you have said is correct, or some reviews maybe be wrong. as that must seem se has gone from "good size" to "good size" note we already started off at teh good size 
and as said before what has the 7610 have over the p910 besides the camera???
neways if you dont mind i might have my go at the comunicator series as now i cant resist 
... i recon they are so bricky and long that you could probly give one to your wife one day as she could use it as a dil d o 
actually now that i think of it, im pretty sure ive seen that some were 
(no wonder they have such high market share  )
oh well i guess its the best object for the job
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S4k1s
Joined: Mar 09, 2005
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From: Sweden
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Here in Sweden, swedish police use Nokia Communicators as truncheons.
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jafggl
Joined: Apr 19, 2005
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From: india
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first it was sony and ericsson separate.they both were washed out of market by nokia.now they joined hands still cannot touch nokia.i would suggest sony to quit mobile business and stik to walkman and handycams.they r king of that field not mobiles. |
JonnyQuango
Joined: Feb 01, 2005
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From: Liverpool
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When I went from a Nokia 6610 to an SE T610 2 years ago, I was well impressed and vowed never to touch a nokia again. SE are far better quality and easier to use, with better looking menu's and features.
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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Indiandawg:
what the heck is "lyke". You in kindergarten or something.
btw: do they have monsoon out there in antartica? Your geography is off by a few thousand miles.
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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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@jafggl, judging by all that primary anti-SE propaganda, i wonder what you´re doing in the World´s greatest SE fans forum then - might it be because there´s nothing from Nokia that reaches the greatness of Esato???...you´re realy SAD
This is somethin else i don´t like in Nokia - people exposed to their phone slowly beggin to loose brain cells
SE is doing very well for such a new company, has are Sony and Ericsson each one in their businesses
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dave_uk
Joined: Mar 06, 2003
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From: London, UK
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@mib
To attempt to respond to your points without resorting to quoting madness:
Your point regarding the evolution of the P-Series vs Nokia S60 (effectively) is ridiculous, whether you made it quickly or not, and far from showing me seeing what I want to see, shows to anyone with half a brain that you are talking rubbish. I think this follows another of your points about the way that people express their opinions in posts. I presume you weren't referring to me as retarded but anyway, it is no use being eloquence personified if what you are saying is wrong!
Back to the beginning, HDD phones will be great when their storage capacity is significantly larger than what flash memory gives us now. In the meantime, it is a fairly pointless feature, but credit to Nokia for something innovative. You'll probably find that release something similar when it offers something genuinely new.
Yes, the P-Series is big. It has a stylus-based interface (the method historically used by the world's serious PDA users, incidentally) and therefore requires a big screen, so that business people can see it when they are working. The real Nokia competitor for the P910i, is not actually the 7610 but the Communicators 9300 and 9500 - I think you will agree that they are not exactly miniature, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE!
But anyway, as I also said, this has previously been discussed, ironically mainly by yourself and a few others, several times over, so moving on...
Superiority - The Dictionary Definition
(n) when someone or something is better:
- The Australian team soon demonstrated their superiority over the opposition.
Note the brilliantly topical example if you are an English cricket fan, or a Bangladeshi one come to that!
I think it suffices to say that the thread being entitled nokia vs sonyericsson is attempting to guage which of the two is better, for want of a more detailed breakdown of criteria.
Now, as to duplication of models, let's be honest. You haven't "lost track" of all the innumerable combinations of handsets, you've named all the examples you could think of - and to some extent you have a point. However, I think that you will find that comparing the level of this duplication (Nokia going back as far as the 3210/3310/3410/3510/3510i - five models, not bad!) is a moot point, as Nokia have made this something of a production policy, whilst many of your examples have not even been released yet! So, how much can they have already been doing it???!!!
And lastly, this thread is not interesting to those people who have read it before, which if you search before posting (the OP, not you) should be everybody. The only satisfaction I get from reading this thread is from laughing at the likes of jafggl, whose garbage posts should probably be moved there - but I suppose that retarded Nokia fanboys are welcome on an forum but ones are not?
The real point is that if you are so keen on arguing that you post anti-:se: sentiment, repeatedly, all over an forum, you have something missing in your life. I hope you find it.
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Trentors
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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From: Denmark
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Using an indicator like market share to show the quality of a certain brand is simply stupid! Do you rate a movies quality by it box office sales?
Then Jerry Buckheimer must probably make the BEST movies in the world. That’s why he keep getting those Oscars. Doh!
In Denmark the most popular show on television was a stupid quiz show. It was lame entertainment for the "people" where you could enjoy watching the contestants’ faces when they either won or lost a lot of money. It was an insult for intelligent people but still the most popular show.....I would like to make that analogy with the mobile phone market.
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Why not compare television shows and phones? Both are products for the masses, and the masses aren’t very bright. But then again we can compare the phone market to the desktop computing market. Dell is the biggest PC manufacturer in the world - They don't make the best computers, and sure aren't the cheapest. A company like Alienware makes far more powerful machines and better computers by Dell is still the biggest player.
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