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C905
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Posted: 2007-10-06 15:37
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On 2007-10-05 18:34:46, shyam335 wrote:
I tend to agree with OP..
All se managed to release this year is p1i and k850,rest are clones in one way or other..
and yes,be a fan boy,but don't be blind..


dude the year aint over yet more phones are coming
xironghostx
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Posted: 2007-10-06 16:00
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yeah, if SE gets their thumb out from their ass and releases some nice and innovative phones in november this year isn't wasted anymore.

(uiq walkman, high-end clamshell and p3 maybe)
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Posted: 2007-10-06 17:11
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I can see that this year, there's no breakthrough innovation for . Maybe that this year are focusing to the low-mid segment (considering many of new SE phone is for low-mid market). It's marketing strategy or something.
I hope next year is better..!!
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Posted: 2007-10-06 18:43
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yes, I agree
I would love a 3'5 megap. walkman in clamshell shape- I think that is the most resistant shape.I don't like candy bars and althopugh I love sliders, the w580 was a fiasco in my casereturned two in days- and the w910 will be far too expensive for a 2meg non AF.
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Posted: 2007-10-07 03:51
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low range phones have higher markets and well allows everyone to have use of a walkman phone they dont have to be highspec to be useful a low spec phone is cheep ti replace and easy to obtain so i think SE are on the ball this year espec as the new iPhone is about due and who knows what samsung nokia and moto will answer with so hang back let them fight and then do ur research into what people think to the next gen phones then bang it all into 1 phone make millions, you have to also remember sony are fighting 3 battles witht he PS3, blueray and next gen phones + TV's PC's HiFis sound, walkmans so they cant just hope that 1 phone will break the market and everyone will have one unlike nokia did with the 3210/3310

just my 50 pence
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Posted: 2007-10-07 12:27
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@slug Don't confuse Sony with SE. Theyare different companies ! Yes there are related but that's it. If Sony or Ericsson run into trouble of some sort it should not mean SE is in trouble too - and the other way around. In other words - is not a excuse
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Posted: 2007-10-07 13:39
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On 2007-10-07 12:27:05, mario2004 wrote:
@slug Don't confuse Sony with SE. Theyare different companies ! Yes there are related but that's it. If Sony or Ericsson run into trouble of some sort it should not mean SE is in trouble too - and the other way around. In other words - is not a excuse


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Posted: 2007-10-07 19:13
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Regarding innovation, well, you can't say SE is not trying.

Just look at the keypad layout of the K850. Isn't that a maverick move on their part. It's not revolutionary, well not yet. But its new.

Also, what new things can you do to a phone today? Its not like there's any new tech out there.

However, I think SE and all phone companies should pay some attention to forums like these, specifically threads like this, so that they'll not just rely on their own R&D outputs but get the lowdown on what their customers are saying.
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Posted: 2007-10-08 00:28
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On 2007-10-07 13:39:26, DarkKrypt wrote:

On 2007-10-07 12:27:05, mario2004 wrote:
@slug Don't confuse Sony with SE. Theyare different companies ! Yes there are related but that's it. If Sony or Ericsson run into trouble of some sort it should not mean SE is in trouble too - and the other way around. In other words - is not a excuse


a division of sony and ericsson , combined:)


It's not a division either. It's a separate independent company.
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Posted: 2007-10-08 08:25
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in my country

SE is in second place after Nokia

the high-end phones arent too popular here.

the best selling here for SE are J220i, J230i, K310i, K510i for last year and this year.

for 2007 phone, the best selling are K610i, K618i, K530i and W660i -
why?
simple answer, cheap and nice design

people in my country doesnt really care about phone features,
mostly rich people here that care about features or someone that really want a good focus features (K800i for camera, W810i-for music, P990i for office application)


so each phone has its own market and it work in my country.......

so for me, low and mid-end phone are usefull.
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Posted: 2007-10-08 09:55
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I think SE find the mid-low strategy has problem and their high phone is not doing good, so they change the ECO.
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Posted: 2007-10-08 10:19
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I just wait for W960... i think is better than P1i
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Posted: 2007-10-08 11:25
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On 2007-10-08 10:19:25, devya wrote:
I just wait for W960... i think is better than P1i



yeah, may be, if it does record QVGA @ 30fps
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Posted: 2007-10-08 13:08
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I agree, low-mid end mobiles are the best sellers-I consider the w580 a mid phone BUT its PRICE of 370 euros is no MID at all. And then again, with the quality issues.....
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Posted: 2007-10-09 02:54
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On 2007-10-06 09:51:31, benitorios wrote:
It's not that i expect them to engage in a spec race and cram dozens of features in a device whose battery will last half a day, but frankly i am also sick and bored with the releases of twins/replicas/clones of past successful models.


And what's wrong with 'twins/replicas/clones' anyway. It's quite common in industry to take proven technology from the 'parts bin' for which the development costs have already been recovered and repackage them with a few added features and new styling. It's called profitability, something has and Motorola for instance does not.

A few years ago VW did the Golf MK5. SEAT, Skoda and Audi all borrowed the floorplan and engines and in all there were 17 'clones' of the Golf! Did anyone complain that thier VW new beetle or Audi TT was a Golf under the skin? No!

Why is it that some owners feel personally affronted that hasn't read thier minds in time for the next free upgrade?

IMO 's user friendly UI makes features easily accessable and it's more likely for me to use these features. That's where REAL innovation is IMO.
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