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BobaFett
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"And i think k850 is the best 5 megapixels camphone cause ELdar say so in the review."
no offence, but imo what eldar says doesnt mean anything, just one opinion among the many many reviews, next to it, he usually tests prototypes...
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NightBlade
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On 2007-08-13 20:53:08, BobaFett wrote:
"And i think k850 is the best 5 megapixels camphone cause ELdar say so in the review."
no offence, but imo what eldar says doesnt mean anything, just one opinion among the many many reviews, next to it, he usually tests prototypes...
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fanboy! 
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max_wedge
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let's see, in terms of cameras:
K750 > N70
K800 > N73
K850 > N95?
I think we have good reason to be confident K850 will be better than N95.
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i think it was k750i > n90 (n70 wasnt really intended to be a cam phone)
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bpr214
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I owned K800i, I enjoy the camera cybershot but I'm not satisfied with the video. |
max_wedge
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On 2007-08-14 04:36:23, >500 wrote:
@max
i think it was k750i > n90 (n70 wasnt really intended to be a cam phone)
Yes I agree, both N90 and N70 cameras are bested by K750.
On 2007-08-14 04:43:07, bpr214 wrote:
I owned K800i, I enjoy the camera cybershot but I'm not satisfied with the video.
I think it's well established, that for now, (let's wait and see what the K850 is like), SE video recording is low quality. Only a few SE models have qvga recording and none have vga recording like the N95.
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razec
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On 2007-08-14 04:47:49, max_wedge wrote:
On 2007-08-14 04:36:23, >500 wrote:
@max
i think it was k750i > n90 (n70 wasnt really intended to be a cam phone)
Yes I agree, both N90 and N70 cameras are bested by K750.
On 2007-08-14 04:43:07, bpr214 wrote:
I owned K800i, I enjoy the camera cybershot but I'm not satisfied with the video.
I think it's well established, that for now, (let's wait and see what the K850 is like), SE video recording is low quality. Only a few SE models have qvga recording and none have vga recording like the N95.
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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2007-08-14 03:50 ]
Honestly SE is capable of incorporating even HD Video recording at even 1-mp(1280x720) resolution if they can. but they don't, it's because there is less market for videocam oriented phones than the camera ones  and anyway still more people prefer having a handycam than a camcorder phone.
imagine if nokia produced N95 with only that VGA video recording feature and no WiFi, EDGE, less MP camera and no HSDPA and so on.
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I also wonder if Sony is strong arming SE to only release quality video recording once VGA and higher recording is common in other mobiles. Otherwise the low end of the Sony handycam market may be eaten up by SE mobile phones!
Now that N95 is out with VGA recording, they will have to start catching up with Nokia on video standards. VGA is close enough to low end handycams that it can start eating in to handycam market, and SE will not want to be missing out on marketshare for mobiles just because Sony are trying to stem the flood of product into the mobile phone market.
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razec
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On 2007-08-14 08:14:40, max_wedge wrote:
I also wonder if Sony is strong arming SE to only release quality video recording once VGA and higher recording is common in other mobiles. Otherwise the low end of the Sony handycam market may be eaten up by SE mobile phones!
Now that N95 is out with VGA recording, they will have to start catching up with Nokia on video standards. VGA is close enough to low end handycams that it can start eating in to handycam market, and SE will not want to be missing out on marketshare for mobiles just because Sony are trying to stem the flood of product into the mobile phone market.
one simple(but very significant) feature of all Handcams which will be very impossible to all mobile phone manufacturers to incorporate for their devices -- to use the minimum of 10x Optical Zoom so i guess phones can't really eat Camcorders
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True, but zoom will become a factor in mobile phones also. They already have several methods of building optical zoom lenses in very flat packages
http://www.sciencedaily.com/u[....]20-13401400-bc-us-zoomlens.xml
"We have the ability to make these lenses from less than a millimeter to a couple of centimeters in size," Wu said of his group's accomplishment.
The smaller lenses could soon be used in digital cameras and camera phones thanks to a licensing deal the school signed with New Mexico's Holochip Corp."
Or the "Origami" lens:
http://www.physorg.com/news89398752.html
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skylineR35
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sorry for being off-topic.
but previously someone posted about the CZ lenses in nokias.
well, even Sony real Cyber-Shot uses CZ Vario Tessar "frequently"
where Sony Handycam uses CZ Varrio Sonnar.
if i notice properly, N73 also uses CZVT as its lens.
actually, thinking "generally" if Sony can do it, Sony Ericsson should also capable of doing it. but the news is that lately some Sony's Cyber Shot have been using Sony's own lens instead of CZ.
that's quite interesting, cause if sony's lens are slowly used in sony cs, there's some possibilites that SE CS would also use the same manufacturer lens.
i believe sony is not stupid to use its own lens if CZ is much superior. but im sure "there's something behind the tree" that makes me confident that SE lenses are better upon taking pictures than Nokia.
but for N95, we shall wait for the big boss, K850 
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max_wedge
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very likely. SE are already using Sony lens modules, but these are purpose designed for camera phones. I expect that this will always be the case (that lens modules will be purpose designed for camera phones), but obviously Sony cybershot lens making techniques will be applied to the camera phone lens modules as well.
You can't really call a lens a "cybershot" lens, it's just a Sony lens. More the point is that the cybershot cameras will start utilising Sony lens making technology rather than CZ. In this respect, camera phones have stimulated Sony into better lens design of it's own (starting at low end of the digicam market)
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sesukaku
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guys.. im not into photography. K800 is gud enough for me although the video recording sux big time, camera ain't that gud, its ok. its just a phone. I probably looking forward to get a K850. |
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