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P990 (Hermione) now official |
Qwerty_uk
Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 408
From: Birmingham/London UK
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Perhaps this is getting a little off-thread now, but I'll just add a few more reasons for using sans-flip:
- More pocketable depth
- Using a screen protector saves the exposed screen, and allows finger use without fingerprints
- Nice, big screen visible for GPS & film use without cumbersome open flip getting in the way
- Looks less like a phone, to prevent arguments when using on a plane
Why not just use a PDA with phone functions? They're just too wide, and I'd feel like a ninkompoop talking on one!
So give it a try with the flip off. You might find you like it. If not, (and here's the clever bit) you can actually put the flip back on! |
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Jejoma
Joined: Aug 31, 2005
Posts: 63
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Just to put my pennyworth in - I find the big benefit of using with the flip is I can use my P900 as a phone one-handed. This is particularly when going through my address book. It is not nearly so easy to do this with the flip removed. |
getagrip15
Joined: Oct 03, 2003
Posts: 486
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I've tried the flip on and off and it all comes down to one thing. One handed text messaging. If I need to respond to an SMS while driving there is no way I'm using a stylus or attempting to use the virtual flip. They should make the virtual flip bigger so it would actually be usable. However to do love the more pocketable feel with the flip off. |
jplacson
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On 2005-09-28 14:11:44, Qwerty_uk wrote:
Why not just use a PDA with phone functions? They're just too wide, and I'd feel like a ninkompoop talking on one!
So give it a try with the flip off. You might find you like it. If not, (and here's the clever bit) you can actually put the flip back on!
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My point exactly... no one was complaining about the existing flip.
I used to use my P800 sans the flip... and I use my P910 with the flip. Just a preference. The beauty of it was that I had a choice to use it with or without the flip.
I use the flip of the P910 to send SMS without having to look at the phone, or SMS with just one hand...something I couldn't do quickly without the keypad.
The thumb board is useless... regardless of its location on the back of the flip... or on the phone. It's much faster to use the stylus... no matter how slow you write.
The thumb board was a stupid reflex response to the Treo. I see no use for it in any hand held device that needs to be pocket sized.
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Qwerty_uk
Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 408
From: Birmingham/London UK
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Texting while driving - not really advisable with any configuration!
If something was important enough that it couldn't wait for me to pull over, I think I'd just make a call - much safer (with a headset). |
anonymuser
Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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I'd agree that the existing flip on/off arrangement gives the best of both worlds, and I do think losing the screen estate for a keypad on the phone itself is a backwards step for Hermione - once you've done that, you may as well get rid of the flip altogether and make it a Treo (one fugly phone imho).
I'm a bit lost as to why anyone would take the flip off their Pxx0; I don't see what you're losing by having it on, whereas taking it off definitely loses you some functionality and practicality, especially in the case of the P910. Surely the beauty of the flip is that you can always move it out of your way, without having to discard it altogether?
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bogdan1978buc
Joined: May 23, 2003
Posts: 285
From: Romania
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So u rather have some plastic instead of keyboard? Ohh... better: using a bt keyboard or an ir one... but in this case I'd buy a laptop or a desk one with microatx. What's the point? U have every kind of text input. Have u tried 7710? Only touchscreen and a few buttons... as we say: "nashpa"  |
_LAU_
Joined: Sep 10, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Zeta Reticuli Phones:.P1;.P910
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I removed the flip because:
1. I use the phone in the jeans pocket all the time. It was too bulcky with flip.
2. 80% of the times I used the P910 I ended up opening the flip.
3. I don't write SMS on the move. I stop, write, send, and go.
4. I'm pretty good in handwriting so I don't miss the qwerty keypad (and to use it I had to open the damn flip!)
5. P9x0 without flip is more stylish.
6. I use a screen protector.
The hermione qwerty keypad is OK with me because:
1. The phone is smaller than the P9x0.
2. They increased the screen resolution, without decreasing the screen size too much (only a few mm).
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3. The Hermione without qwerty would probably be the same size anyway, with all the hardware (UMTS+GSM+GPRS+WIFI) and battery it needs to operate, so why not add the keyboard if they had leftover space on the front?
[ This Message was edited by: _LAU_ on 2005-09-28 17:18 ] |
Miss UK
Joined: Jan 11, 2003
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I 2... also don't like the look of the Keypad but im sure it will grow on me when in my hand 
btw these are jus rumoured pics.. who knows SE might add a keypad on the P9?? just similar to there latest p[hones K750i and W800i's 
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Karel Jansens
Joined: Apr 09, 2005
Posts: 175
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(In reply to the remarks of Hermione turning into a flip-less Treo)
Funnily enough, the Treo started out as a flipped (pun not intended, but nevertheless shamelessly assimilated) device.
I had a Treo 270 and I still suspect the design of the Treo 300 was influenced by frustrated hackers who ripped the flip off their 180/270.
(for those interested: my Treo is still performing admirably somewhere in SE Asia. It was a very good phone, provided it was treated with some basic care) |
DevilHell
Joined: May 11, 2003
Posts: 140
From: Hell
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personally i have used both P800 and Treo 650, and here are my 2 cents:
1) thumb broad is more useful for both text input and GAMES, and I do hand write very well on P800.
2) keypad is better for phone functions (dailing, SMS, etc), not a big fan of the phone portion of Treo
But then, this is just my personal opinion. The option to keep/remove any keypad/thumb broad will fit everyone's peference. Why would SE take away that from us?
I live in the states and thumb broad devices are just not exciting (you would see 3 dozens a day). P serise is much much cooler with the flippable keypad. I mean, how many smartphone/PDA out there can FLIP.
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Nitrowing
Joined: Jul 26, 2005
Posts: 49
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I've had each of the P series and have always removed the flip - it's too bulky and looks horrible.
I'm not impressed with the built-in keyboard of these leaked pics - the phone itself would need to be awesome for me to carry such an ugly looking lump 
SE will need to watch their pricing too, I'm getting awfully tempted by the http://www.oqo.com ! |
Cenfi
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Posts: 129
From: Indonesia
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yes, indeed i felt the same when i first use p910. but later i found my p910 is very sophistecared n convenient compared to my communicator & ppc. so i hope next p series keep the "p" series feel
My lovely phones  t610, k300, k700, p910 & w800  N9500 & HTC magician My less lovely phones Moto v3 & N6681 |
_LAU_
Joined: Sep 10, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Zeta Reticuli Phones:.P1;.P910
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Wake up guys, the Hermione is comming!! 
Anteprima: foto e specifiche di Hermione, lo smartphone UMTS di Sonyericsson
http://www.newsmobile.it/notizia/05,09,30,3500776-1.htm
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nosnaj
Joined: Jun 06, 2004
Posts: 48
From: Sweden
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Yay, can't wait until smart phone conference
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Posted: 2005-09-28 14:11
t610, k300, k700, p910 & w800 
N9500 & HTC magician
