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ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-03-27 13:07
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See what too much TV can cause?
@Angelgirl: off peak period on Celtel is b/w 10pm-6am monday to thursday, and from 10pm friday to 6am monday.
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Posted: 2007-03-27 14:13
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I really don't see the advantage of this new tariff when I can call for 19 naira per min to all GSM networks via Reltel. I'll just keep my MTN and reltel lines.
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Posted: 2007-03-27 17:18
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On 2007-03-27 06:57:00, AYA wrote:
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On 2007-03-26 15:01:59, abubakar wrote:

saw the text from Celtel about unity. dont know the details but i dont like plans with monthly access charges. hate the idea of being so tied to a network.


The basic plan on the Unity Tariffs does not have a monthly access fee, so you can stay as free as a bird...



I thought I saw "migration fees" of N100 bucks on the free packages? That is a major turn-off! We have passed the stage of paying to migrate to any package. I am holding out until the NCC forces Celtel to scrap the illegal fees. And check out the way all the networks have been toying with the commensment of the "off-peak" period. Everyone know it should be from 7pm daily. But, 10 pm? Haba!

My first impression of these new packages is: "Medicine after death." What about Celtel free mid-night calls?????? Any news?
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Posted: 2007-03-27 18:49
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On 2007-03-27 17:18:36, coolapostle wrote:
What about Celtel free mid-night calls?????? Any news?

Why must Celtel give free mid-night calls? Simply because MTn and Glo did? Isn't it interesting that we clamour for competition and innovation, yet when we get it we are also the first to cry foul?

Where would the innovation -- and true competition - be if every network offered exactly the same packages? That would be a cartel, not competition.

In terms of real value, what are free midnight calls worth? Its generally useless for business and economic progress, though there may be minority exceptions.

While I am not a Celtel subscriber, I clearly appreciate the direction they have taken. They do NOT have to offer what everyone else offers.
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Posted: 2007-03-27 22:46
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@ all:Is no one is interested in my Alheri Engineering question?
@ areafada: I really liked your analogy (or is it trilogy) with the three networks,very nice.You forgot to add the Leukemia patient,M-tel!
@ all: I would like to know that some people are still browsing "freely" on Celtel. If any1 knows how to join these free people,do tell...
ambyzown
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Posted: 2007-03-27 23:26
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On 2007-03-27 14:13:00, mamba wrote:
I really don't see the advantage of this new tariff when I can call for 19 naira per min to all GSM networks via Reltel.

Who is deceiving you that calls to GSM from Reltel is N19/min? have you read the fine print?
That tariff is only possible when you load a N3000 bonus card, which is the same as paying monthly access fees.
@Coola: You aren't compelled to migrate. By now you should understand that anything that is free in Naija eventually leads to the of gnashing of teeth due to congestion. I totally agree with what Aya said, and think Celtel has trodden the right path. Have you tried calling MTN numbers lately?
@234hay: We know little or nothing about Alheri Engineering. I'll google it and see what I can find for you.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 09:45
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@ambyz: you forgot Mtel being jabba the hut, the big fat monolithic local champion that gets wasted way before his prime!

@all: i rarely use my Celtel. only recently i learnt they still give 6 free texts. money i loaded in december is still there. i need to go to thier site and get details of all these new tariff plans.

is reltel really giving N19/min no strings attached?
Angelgirl
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Posted: 2007-03-28 12:38
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Sorry Abu, i think Mamba forgot to let you know that Reltel deducts N30 daily, if you have enough credit left overnignt.

[ This Message was edited by: Angelgirl on 2007-03-28 11:40 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-28 13:03
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@Angel ur right, reltel deducts 30 bucks daily as long as you have credit left on your line. If you have zero credit, they dont deduct. I'm still happy with the option because the 19 naira is uniform across all GSM whether peak or off-peak. I need a phone I can bring out and make calls freely without bringing out my calculator to crosscheck. Besides, I can also send SMS, browse the net, call landlines & international cheaper.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 17:38
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And gradually, the people awake to the reality that there are better deals available with the CDMA operators. As I have said before, for day-to-day use, running a regular prepaid GSM line is economically suicidal.

Almost everyone I know has a mobile line from one PTO/CDMA network or the other. That's where most of the action takes place for us. Those who stay strictly on GSM can clamour for free midnight calls all they like. The rest of us are communicating during the day for peanuts . In addition, some of us talk for free all weekend. And not at night either, mind you

I even know people who use their Reltel/Starcomms/Multilinks lines as their main phones, and only keep a GSM line for the odd times they have to roam. But even that is already changing, as we see new roaming opportunities on non-GSM networks.

In all, the consumer wins. At the end of the day, this will lead to lower tariffs across board as the GSM companies wake up to the reality that they do not have a hold on the population any longer. Sweet. So sweet.

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Posted: 2007-03-28 21:50
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@AYA: as much as i would like to agree with you i cant. too many Nigerians are tariff insensitive. i see it everyday i go out marketing Starcomms. i task everyone here to ask 3 random people they know how much they are charged on thier line(s). most likely all 3 wont know exactly. yesterday i had a guy arguing MTN charges N15! the gsm operators know this thats why its been so bad for so long.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 22:00
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@mamba: N30 daily is a bit steep! Starcomms used to charge daily access some years back when the smallest denom was N1000, forcing most to use up thier cred faster. if reltel has 100 or 200 then one can limit loses. but most likely they wouldnt as it doesnt help them.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 23:22
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On 2007-03-28 21:50:20, abubakar wrote:
@AYA: as much as i would like to agree with you i cant. too many Nigerians are tariff insensitive. i see it everyday i go out marketing Starcomms. i task everyone here to ask 3 random people they know how much they are charged on thier line(s). most likely all 3 wont know exactly. yesterday i had a guy arguing MTN charges N15! the gsm operators know this thats why its been so bad for so long.



Errr... exactly what is it that you find it difficult to agree with me about?

Too many Nigerians are tariff insensitive, you say.

That cannot be true, or else they would not complain about how GSM "sucks" up their credit as they do. And they would not jump on the MTN and Glo free midnight calls the way they did. No, sir; not too many Nigerians are that tariff insensitive.

How do you reconcile your position with the fact that more and more people are clutching a Starcomms or Reltel or Multilinks or Intercellular, or .. (you get the idea) mobile? Others have the desktop phones sitting on their desks. And they are using them more.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 23:48
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@ all:Amongst the CDMA operators which has the widest coverage and which do you think has the best internet package;cost,speed and all...
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Posted: 2007-03-30 20:16
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On 2007-03-28 23:22:06, AYA wrote:
How do you reconcile your position with the fact that more and more people are clutching a Starcomms or Reltel or Multilinks or Intercellular, or .. (you get the idea) mobile? Others have the desktop phones sitting on their desks. And they are using them more.


True, but this population is still a far cry from those using GSM, and it doesn't seem like its growing anymore. In my residence, there at least 27 people, including the maiguard. Of this number, there are approximately 18 GSM line users, and just 4 cdma users. Whats the ratio in your residence? this will give you an indication of how "tariff insensitive" most Nigerians are. They hardly ask themselves why and what they need a phone line for, and which provider is most suited for their needs before they go out and buy one.
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