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anonymuser
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Marketing strategy my a*se 
The iPhone's winning because it's a supremely powerful device which delivers a user experience many leagues beyond any comparable smartphone, combined with a plethora of genuinely useful features and add-on applications that makes WM look agonisingly dull and stupid.
If you want to talk marketing strategies, just ask yourself where that self-flattering, aspirational, utterly meaningless phrase "power user" came from...
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Nitro Fan
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On 2009-02-09 12:30:26, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-02-09 12:18:57, Nitro Fan wrote:
and as for the iPhone it simply cannot compete.
Although of course it does compete, and is selling far more than either the 5800 or the X1.
Let's be real here, the iPhone is the competition, and it's been winning from the start.
You dont half talk some tosh mate
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doministry
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On 2009-02-09 14:00:03, Boinng wrote:
Marketing strategy my a*se
The iPhone's winning because it's a supremely powerful device which delivers a user experience many leagues beyond any comparable smartphone, combined with a plethora of genuinely useful features and add-on applications that makes WM look agonisingly dull and stupid.
If you want to talk marketing strategies, just ask yourself where that self-flattering, aspirational, utterly meaningless phrase "power user" came from...
It clearly states you never really tried to do anything serious on a smartphone. "User experience" - man, this is a real marketing! They did it to you already!
Anyway, your praising as a "winner" a device which after 1.5 years is still not able to send a contact, copy text or forward a message is just makes me end this discussion.
Can we talk about SE now, not about toys for kids?
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anonymuser
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On 2009-02-09 14:12:45, doministry wrote:
It clearly states you never really tried to do anything serious on a smartphone. "User experience" - man, this is a real marketing! They did it to you already!
Not marketing, just experience - which apparently you lack. You're talking about doing "serious" things on a smartphone, but don't rate the ease, speed, efficiency, or effectiveness of performing that action as worthy of note. The classic sign of the sort of "power user" that desperately needs to know their device is capable of something, without ever needing to actually use it.
When you need to actually do something with your phone on a regular basis, that's when you start to appreciate the "user experience".
Anyway, your praising as a "winner" a device which after 1.5 years is still not able to send a contact, copy text or forward a message is just makes me end this discussion.
If you had any idea of just how much the iPhone can do these days, you'd never have started the discussion in the first place. I already have an official app that sends contacts by email, and I can jailbreak for copy & paste and SMS forwarding (although as an adult I rarely feel the need to forward SMS).
I'm sorely tempted to list some of the serious tasks my own particular phone can perform, quickly and efficiently and without even being jailbroken, but it'd be a long and tedious list.
Can we talk about SE now, not about toys for kids?
Such maturity
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doministry
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Ok, now, can we talk about SE X1 in SE X1 thread?
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anonymuser
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That would depend on whether posters like you, Nitro Fan and l337h1um feel like bringing up the iPhone again
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doministry
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I din't bring it, anyway, one sentence does not have to turn into the same discussion again. Use your iPhone and be happy.
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- I have an X1 and and Ipod Touch. I use the Ipod touch for music and games and I use the X1 for everything else. The keypad in an iPod/iPhone is so terribly painful to use I stopped using facebook app and email.The iPod has a far easier interface but for me personally, all these apps and things without a propper keyboard is too much for me. I will never own an iPhone for this reason alone. No disrespect to any iPhone make-lovers but X1 (or any keyboarded phone for me) kills iPhone for text input and my personal "user experience" involves alot of it.
So, a real question is, will the next Windows Mobile OS have a similar interface to the iPhone? More than likely is my guess. How else would you ever get an iPhone user to move from an iPhone?
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koto
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I had a problem maching P1 keybord speed of text input in my X1. Then I realised that using top of fingers is a bad approach. I started using palm side of each finger (full finger) and its amazing. Love those keybords. Fantastic phone! |
doministry
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On 2009-02-09 21:38:05, koto wrote:
I had a problem maching P1 keybord speed of text input in my X1. Then I realised that using top of fingers is a bad approach. I started using palm side of each finger (full finger) and its amazing. Love those keybords. Fantastic phone!
Great you like it.
Join xda-devs too, there's much to gain from there.
Also look at freeware sites, there are many OUTSTANDING apps there. |
l337h1um
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On 2009-02-09 14:47:42, Boinng wrote:
That would depend on whether posters like you, Nitro Fan and l337h1um feel like bringing up the iPhone again
Excuse me sir. I believe we, as a collective, were queried by another forum user on the suitability of each of three current mobile phones for said user.
I believe I provided a simple fair comparison between the X1 and Touch HD. Moving aside the superior looks and hardware keyboard of the X1 and the larger display of the Touch HD for a moment, the devices are essentially one and the same when one considers that, with a little looking around, each of these products' OEM-supplied Windows Mobile UI extension are available for the other. As such, the primary pursuading factor when comparing these two very similar devices is obviously the hardware keyboard.
Regarding my comments about the iPhone: not once in my previous post comparing these three devices did I disregard the iPhone as an effective solution to your needs, nor the needs of the aforementioned forum user. I simply did not include the obvious and well-known fact that the iPhone is easier to use and has a user interface that is, overall, easier to use than Windows Mobile, serious omissions notwithstanding. What I was implying is that there is no reason to choose Windows Mobile over the iPhone if each and every one of the features that I listed are of no value to the user. Hence my basic list - and I mean basic, as there are many, many more glaring omissions from Apple's offering - shoud not be viewed as discrediting the device. In fact, on careful re-reading, you will find that I actually suggested the iPhone to bo_sagoor if he or she has no need for any of the features in the list.
Quite simply, the fact of the matter is that all three of these devices are deficient in some area and, if you ask me right now, all three of them suck. The X1 sucks. The iPhone sucks. The Touch HD sucks. The 5800 sucks. The N96 sucks. The N97 sucks. The P1 sucks. Every single bloody phone out there, has fairly obvious issues that the manufacturers of each of them have either ignored or sidestepped around. The truth is, no matter which device (s)he chooses, (s)he will be disappointed with it in some way.
So... I would appreciate it if you would refrain from including myself in the blanket covering you have enshrouded "posters who feel like bringing up the iPhone again" with.
Now if you will excuse me, I should get back to work. |
JiSm
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.... so continuing on with our X1.....
I had a problem with my keypad where the lower part were double or sometimes tripple inputting the letter/symbol etc. It drove me nuts enough to make me take apart My X1 and see what the hell was going on.
It was relatively easy to come apart and no real tricks to it. In getting to the keypad and removing the pressure pads I discovered the problem. The glue that hold the pressure pads on the circuit board had actually run onto the contacts. Im guessing from the heat (here in NZ its around 30˚C atm) so pretty sure its covered by warranty for those with one. All I did was use a small amount of contact cleaner on a lintfree rag and clean all the contacts and pressure pads of the excess glue.
Now works PERFECT.
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sambouka
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New panel ! PointUI 2.0
Download here: http://www.pointui.com/products/home-2
http://downloads.pointui.com/[....]intui.Home2.X1.Free.Latest.cab
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sambouka
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Windows Mobile 6.5 screenshots leak
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On 2009-02-09 14:38:16, Boinng wrote:
If you had any idea of just how much the iPhone can do these days
Are u still around with the same old & hopeless propaganda for a hopeless device ?
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