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shaliron Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Melbourne, Australia PM |
@domipost
It's already updated
@sealover94
The screen size should not be the deciding factor when picking a phone.
The Mooi will almost certainly have more features than the iPhone. HSDPA, better camera, hardware keys so that you can use the phone with one hand and play games, and not permanently locked (under threat of bricking) to an operator.
@laurenke01
Here's a comparison of screen size (and the P990/P3i have a screen which is similar to a television 4:3):
So it does look quite a bit smaller, but it isn't all bad, because it makes the phone a little smaller (narrower). But it would be nice to get widescreen soon (although it seems Japan will again have it far before we do).
@rss_ndrsn
Wi-fi 802.11n? No phone will get this in the next year. It's not even standardised on computers yet, let alone on small battery operated phones. Also, you should realise that 802.11n is only useful for home networking, not internet usage, because the theoretical speeds (and practical speeds) are far greater than any consumer or business broadband connection in existence.
And the other features you posted are just impractical and would add to the cost of an already expensive phone. It seems as though you are just a features 'whore', who just likes to have the latest and greatest features, despite the fact that quadband HSDPA is very, very niche, or that having a price tag of >$1000 and a battery life of <1 day is fun.
Perhaps a bump up in internal memory could be considered, but again, that would kill the W960 sales, and it would cost a bomb. There is always the Mooi or W960 for users who want that much memory, otherwise you can just buy a large memory card.
UPDATE:
- P3i specifications (see first post).
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Supa_Fly Joined: Apr 16, 2002 Posts: > 500 From: Toronto, Ontario PM, WWW
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On 2007-09-25 07:23:53, shaliron wrote:
@domipost
It's already updated
@sealover94
The screen size should not be the deciding factor when picking a phone.
The Mooi will almost certainly have more features than the iPhone. HSDPA, better camera, hardware keys so that you can use the phone with one hand and play games, and not permanently locked (under threat of bricking) to an operator.
@laurenke01
Here's a comparison of screen size (and the P990/P3i have a screen which is similar to a television 4:3):
So it does look quite a bit smaller, but it isn't all bad, because it makes the phone a little smaller (narrower). But it would be nice to get widescreen soon (although it seems Japan will again have it far before we do).
@rss_ndrsn
Wi-fi 802.11n? No phone will get this in the next year. It's not even standardised on computers yet, let alone on small battery operated phones. Also, you should realise that 802.11n is only useful for home networking, not internet usage, because the theoretical speeds (and practical speeds) are far greater than any consumer or business broadband connection in existence.
And the other features you posted are just impractical and would add to the cost of an already expensive phone. It seems as though you are just a features 'whore', who just likes to have the latest and greatest features, despite the fact that quadband HSDPA is very, very niche, or that having a price tag of >$1000 and a battery life of <1 day is fun.
Perhaps a bump up in internal memory could be considered, but again, that would kill the W960 sales, and it would cost a bomb. There is always the Mooi or W960 for users who want that much memory, otherwise you can just buy a large memory card.
UPDATE:
- P3i specifications (see first post).
BEST post YET in this Entire thread thus FAR!
Especially regarding 802.11n (lol, hilarious someone expected this when its STILL a draft), and also regarding screen density. I'd rather the smaller more pixel dense & screen clarity ... keeps the screen immaculate.
Regarding Windows Mobile Professional in an SE ... it was just about a matter of time really. Its become so powerful media wise and application support is incredible (only S60 comes close currently).
I'm VERY happy that my dream phone is NOW an SE concept in the planning stages instead of my own "dream drawing board". Symbian Cybershot. I just hope its UIQ3.1 1-handed stylee.
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rss_ndrsn Joined: Aug 27, 2005 Posts: > 500 PM |
On 2007-09-25 07:23:53, shaliron wrote:
@sealover94
The screen size should not be the deciding factor when picking a phone.
I think it's a matter of preference. People have different taste.
@rss_ndrsn
Wi-fi 802.11n? No phone will get this in the next year. It's not even standardised on computers yet, let alone on small battery operated phones. Also, you should realise that 802.11n is only useful for home networking, not internet usage, because the theoretical speeds (and practical speeds) are far greater than any consumer or business broadband connection in existence.
I exaggerated my post, intentionally. I did it to make fun of P3i. P3i features are so 2007-ish.
And the other features you posted are just impractical and would add to the cost of an already expensive phone. It seems as though you are just a features 'whore', who just likes to have the latest and greatest features, despite the fact that quadband HSDPA is very, very niche, or that having a price tag of >$1000 and a battery life of <1 day is fun.
Impractical for those who don't need it!
Do you expect a feature pack phone to cost less?
Have you played around with a device that has a really nice screen? And after playing with it for hours, do you expect the battery to last 'till the next day day.
Perhaps a bump up in internal memory could be considered, but again, that would kill the W960 sales, and it would cost a bomb. There is always the Mooi or W960 for users who want that much memory, otherwise you can just buy a large memory card.
Nokia release an upgraded version of N95, the N95-8gb version. Would it affect the sales of, let's say ,N81, or N95?
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shyam335 Joined: May 25, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: 127.0.0.1 PM |
Good thing for us is there is always news leaks from taiwan..
I haven't seen a new smart phone platform since,say p990..
have se abandoned r&d?
and is that the reason new orders are going to htc?
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shaliron Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Melbourne, Australia PM |
@shyam335
Well, if the P3 is UIQ 4, then we know that SE is continuing R&D on UIQ. I doubt that they would abandon it after they bought it from Symbian.
Still, maybe they know that they have to eventually switch to WM to gained market share in the smartphone/business market. Maybe UIQ will become their platform to develop touch screen phones (like Mooi). HTC must just be a cheaper and quicker option at the moment (because they have no expertise at WM), and that way SE can put more resources into UIQ and Java development.
And UPDATE about the first post. It's too big now. I've just been updating all the information for each rumoured phone, and there seems to be a formatting problem with the post.
I think there is some type of character limit per post, which I believe is 45,000 characters. So the 'false information' section has been cut, and I'll stick it further down the first page. I think I'm going to shift all the 'old' info down to a post further down, so there may be a few changes to the layout.
Not to mention an even bigger change. But we'll leave that till later...
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technical-expert Joined: Mar 13, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: Pacific Rim PM |
i can see a gaming phone apporaching with special gaming keys and motion sensors but not psp branded .there could be annnouncement around 11th feb,2008
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shaliron Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Melbourne, Australia PM |
UPDATE:
- The gaming phone will have dedicated gaming buttons and motion sensors. It may be announced on the 11th of February, 2008.
- There may be an announcement on the 11th of February, 2008.
- The SO905i will not have a 2 step slider design. That was only a concept.
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sambouka Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 260 From: Mount Lebanon PM, WWW
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On 2007-09-25 12:01:02, arunvc wrote:
i can see a gaming phone apporaching with special gaming keys and motion sensors but not psp branded .there could be annnouncement around 11th feb,2008
[ This Message was edited by: arunvc on 2007-09-25 11:01 ]
arunvc you're hilarious
A kind of nostradamus !!!
What else can you see?
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shaliron Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Melbourne, Australia PM |
@rss_ndrsn
I forgot to reply to your comment.
I exaggerated my post, intentionally. I did it to make fun of P3i. P3i features are so 2007-ish.
2007-ish? I'm sorry, but I really don't know what else you'd like to see implemented on the phone.
Widescreen? DVB-H (which I still think is not for 2008)? That's the only thing that I can think that would be 2008-ish.
Impractical for those who don't need it!
Do you expect a feature pack phone to cost less?
Impractical for who? It's impractical for Sony Ericsson.
You know what? Appealing to a niche market of people who would spend enough money to buy a good laptop is not good business sense. I never said no one would buy it, but how many do you think they'll sell at >$1000?
If they managed to sell 100,000 phones at that price that'd be amazing. Even so, wouldn't it be better to sell 1,000,000 of them at $800 instead?
Nokia release an upgraded version of N95, the N95-8gb version. Would it affect the sales of, let's say ,N81, or N95?
Well, that's cos the N95 8GB is the successor to the N95. I can guarantee that the N95 will be cut down, or even discontinued to make way for the N95 8GB. That's going to be Nokia's flagship for 2008.
And the N81? Well, that's actually very much crippled compared to the N95 8GB. The camera is its biggest weakness, not to mention screen size. |
darknoob Joined: Feb 26, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
Why all you guys trust arunvc? is something of his talks really happened?
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remirez Joined: Apr 11, 2007 Posts: 317 PM |
[...]P3i's specification doesn't live up to what a 2008 high-end phone should have; with the exception of the screen and, maybe, Tri-band HSPDA, as well. The specification is quite a year behind. I expected it to have more advance features such as [b]Wi-fi n[\\b]...
I don't hink you will find Wifi N aytime soon in any handheld device as it would drain the battery very quickly. I'm no engineer but it's said to work over 100m even through walls and at a much higher speed rate than the G norm, meaning the power required would be far greater than what's used on the G protocol. I don't think any hadheld device would have battery efficient enough to consider this option.
For the rest of the specs, you can't really tell if it will be outdated or not. The radio used (quadband UMTS/HSDPA) will have its importance as well as the user interface, the GPU and the CPU which we don't know anything about. |
domipost Joined: Mar 18, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: Leiden, Netherlands PM, WWW
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Yes, i thought that too. Maybe he hasn't got any real info.
btw. Yes, MOOI means beautifull in dutch |
remirez Joined: Apr 11, 2007 Posts: 317 PM |
On 2007-09-25 08:54:50, rss_ndrsn wrote:
I exaggerated my post, intentionally. I did it to make fun of P3i. P3i features are so 2007-ish.
How? care to explain? |
laurenke01 Joined: Apr 04, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: USA PM |
The switch to WM to next year in a new line of phones sounds similar to what Palm did with the 750, and trying to break into the European market more. That move is probably the only thing that is keeping that company afloat now.
SE has little to no presence in America, unfortunately. The release of WM phones may be a break into that market.
I'm gunning for Mooi currently--but I am INCREDIBLY excited for the UIQ Cyber-shot phone, expecially since the K850 has everything I'd want in a phone...sans a touchscreen and GPS, which the UIQ phone will probably have.
I just don't know if I can wait that long.
I'm excited for November, yet don't want to be disappointed in case the P3/Mooi are Euro-only devices. Hopefully by 2008 SE will realize that if they stick 850 in their phones, people over here will buy them. |
mario2004 Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: South Africa PM, WWW
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You people, how sure are you about SE bringing out a WM6 OS phone? Keep in mind SE has the potential to sell many more devices then for example HTC, which means Micro$oft will ask a hefty licence fee for each and every device sold ! I am not so sure SE will be able never mind happy to pay that On the other hand Uiq has been paid for a few months ago already
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