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davisa Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 63 PM | 
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  |  Realize this post was a while ago, but still should correct this misinformation. In fact, the M600 has glorious full-screen video playback - can be selected from the 'More' menu or simply by tapping on the screen during playback.  |  
  |   But its not full-screen (at least it isn't on mine) because there is a whopping white navigation bar at the bottom that won't go away! If I'm missing something please tell me   | 
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masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM | 
not sure what you are doing but I get full screen without the menu bar
 
 edit: full screen is only available in landscape mode so perhaps you#re trying to get it in portrait mode?
 
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davisa Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 63 PM | 
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 On 2006-06-22 10:17:30, masseur wrote:
 not sure what you are doing but I get full screen without the menu bar
 
 edit: full screen is only available in landscape mode so perhaps you#re trying to get it in portrait mode?
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  |   Nope, using landscape. I'll go and try again.. :sounds of me walking off to get M600: | 
davisa Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 63 PM | 
Nope. What am I doing wrong?
 
 Media player->Videos->select a video
 
 Click screen (or select more->Default view->landscape)
 
 I get a video in the middle with the navigation bar at the bottom and up/down arrows at the top. Cannot find a way to remove them.
 
 Here is a photo:
  
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masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM | 
I've only tried with the demo video so I am wondeing if you're video is wide screen (i.e. not same dimensions as screen)... check the settings ->size option and if it is "actual size" try changing to "fit to screen"
 
 I'm still runing the base M600 for test purposes but I'm just about done and will start loading content very soon to test
 
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realtylerdur Joined: Jun 20, 2006 Posts: 36 PM | 
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 On 2006-06-22 07:15:18, masseur wrote:
 a few quick pics as requested
 
 Esato in porttrait
 
 and in landscape
 
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 Are these pics of the browser made in some kind of small screen rendering mode?  It doesnt really look like the original html.  Can you switch to original html and take some pictures form other sites, so we can see how opera renders them?  Please show us the different zoomlevels.
 
 Thanks alot!
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masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM | 
welcome to Esato!  
 
 those were made at the default settings, i.e. 50% zoom.
 
 there is no setting to choose "original html" or anything similar, Iguess increasing the zoom will do that so if no one else does, I'll do some more pics as requested tonight
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davisa Joined: Sep 01, 2002 Posts: 63 PM | 
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 On 2006-06-22 10:58:05, masseur wrote:
 I've only tried with the demo video so I am wondeing if you're video is wide screen (i.e. not same dimensions as screen)... check the settings ->size option and if it is "actual size" try changing to "fit to screen"
 
 I'm still runing the base M600 for test purposes but I'm just about done and will start loading content very soon to test  |  
  |   Testing with an Mpeg4 16x9 image (Doctor Who! - image now on my previous post). Tried both with and without 'fit to screen' selected. I will try a 4x3 image, perhaps that's the problem, although almost everything I watch is 16x9!
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beachball Joined: Jun 10, 2006 Posts: 6 PM | 
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 On 2006-06-22 10:10:19, davisa wrote:
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  |  Realize this post was a while ago, but still should correct this misinformation. In fact, the M600 has glorious full-screen video playback - can be selected from the 'More' menu or simply by tapping on the screen during playback.  |  
  |   But its not full-screen (at least it isn't on mine) because there is a whopping white navigation bar at the bottom that won't go away! If I'm missing something please tell me  
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 There is indeed a control bar even in full-screen mode, but the video picture is 'on top' of it. 
 
 Maybe it has to do with the format of your video, as the Media player scales in proportion (i.e., not distorted). Hence, if you have a video with a different aspect ration than the screen, the relatively 'shorter' of the screen dimensions will determine the overall size of the picture.
 
 Fact (from my experience): If you have a video with 'narrower' than the standard TV aspect ratio of 4:3, the vertical dimension of the M600 screen (in landscape mode) is the limiting factor and, hence, not all the screen 'width' is used to display the video. Consequently, there are 'gaps' on the left and right side and you can see parts of the control bar 'sticking out' from underneath the video picture.
 Implication (I have not tested this, yet): Conversely, if you have a widescreen format video, the horizontal dimension of the screen is the limiting factor and there will be a gap at the bottom. I surmise that this is why you can see the control bar.
 
 By definition, it is not possible to have full-screen playback filling the entire screen without distortion, unless the aspect ration of the video and the screen are identical.
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masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM | 
yeah, i suspect that is it.
 
 thinking more about it, fit to screen would probably keep the same aspect ratio and so would not chop width to make height fit.
 
 I guess what you see is what you get. my appologies for not thinking more about it before writing that suggestion  
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kk.226 Joined: Nov 04, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: London PM | 
@Masseur, from the pics you posted of the menu. It's in grid form, anyway to change that to being a list, like you could in the Pxxx? Thanks  
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beachball Joined: Jun 10, 2006 Posts: 6 PM | 
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 On 2006-06-22 10:48:04, davisa wrote:
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 On 2006-06-22 10:17:30, masseur wrote:
 not sure what you are doing but I get full screen without the menu bar
 
 edit: full screen is only available in landscape mode so perhaps you#re trying to get it in portrait mode?
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  |   Nope, using landscape. I'll go and try again.. :sounds of me walking off to get M600:
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 This looks like normal landscape format (not full-screen) mode to me... | 
masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM | 
@kk.226, yup. whereas on the p series the list was the default, now the icons (or grid as they call it) are the default, but an option in the more menu allows yuo to quickly change
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realtylerdur Joined: Jun 20, 2006 Posts: 36 PM | 
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 On 2006-06-22 11:14:54, masseur wrote:
 welcome to Esato!  
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 Thanks!    
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 those were made at the default settings, i.e. 50% zoom.
 
 there is no setting to choose "original html" or anything similar, Iguess increasing the zoom will do that so if no one else does, I'll do some more pics as requested tonight
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 Did you turn off downloading of images?  I think there should be small yellow folder icons on your screenshot, but it seems to be text only.  Would be great if you could do some screenshots of well known websites so we can compare.  Thanks!
 
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masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM | 
ah, I see!
 
 no, images are not turned off but I was viewing the "html light" esato (mobile.esato.com) version of esato as I normally do on hand held devices
 
 again, if no one else does any before, I'll do some full sites when I get home, including Esato
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