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Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2008-12-20 07:09
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borisisinvin
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Posted: 2008-12-20 08:18
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ooppps, my bad...
doministry
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Posted: 2008-12-20 11:09
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So what are those main MediaPlayer bugs so annoying?
borisisinvin
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Posted: 2008-12-20 19:27
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On 2008-12-20 11:09:03, doministry wrote:
So what are those main MediaPlayer bugs so annoying?


Oh man, do you really want to know? Ok, here it all goes all of the stuff wrong with the Media panel off of the top of my head:

* It won't recognize any of my playlist but one.
* It refuses to play any songs from anything other than the "track" list category, meaning that when you go to the "artist" or "album" list category and hit "menu" and then "hit play all by artist or album" it won't, it acts like it's about to and instead goes to a blank screen and plays nothing.
* Like mentioned above, when you do the above, but navigate further down to a specific song and try to play a specific track it does what I mentioned above.
* After turning it off and then restarting it the volume decrease by an increment of one each time (if you never re-adjusted it, it would eventually be at zero after constantly closing it and re-opening it) making you adjust the volume manually to the "perfect" setting you had it at before closing the Media Panel.
* When listening to music over the loud speaker and hitting the "turn off" phone function using a short button press of the power button (to you know, conserve battery power) often times causes the phone to stop playing music over the loud speaker all together (but not when connected to a device using a Stereo Bluetooth connection?)...
* When connected to a stereo bluetooth enabled device the panel won't recognize and accept AVCRP commands.
* Disconnecting from a stereo bluetooth enabled device, even after you've hit "stop" on the player, causes the device to re-start the song you were just listening to over the phone's loud speaker (hope you don't like to rock out to someone like Celine Dion privately in the car, because that shit could be embarrassing while trying to get out of the car while parking next to the cutey ;p ). The only way to avoid this is to completely exit from the panel by pressing the "panel" button...
* Often times while listening to music streaming over a stereo bluetooth connection the music will inexplicably start to play super fast (think Alvin and the Chipmunks) and loudly...
* The Stereo Bluetooth connection will often disconnect itself from your device after a phone call (a noted bug that requires morts script to fix).
* There is no way to mannually innitiate a stereo bluetooth connection to a stereo bluetooth enabled device from the X1 itself (a problem more with WM I think), soooo if you have a device that you want to use to listen to music over that can't initiate the connection itself you're SOL.
* Something that I've now noticed is that when sometimes navigating panels, specifically either from or to the Media Panel, the phone will lock-up...

I know that there are more bugs and stuff wrong with the Media Panel, but that's all I can come up with atm off the top of my head. As you can see from my list above there is a lot wrong with it imo that definitely makes the Media panel an inconvenience and pain in the ass to use in it's current state. It definitely feels like a piece of half assed beta software that SE rushed out the door to make their ever shortening window. Hope this helps you out. To anyone else that's used it and experienced any of my problems I have and more please feel free to add to this list with any of the bugs you've experienced that I may have forgotten about.

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-20 18:36 ]
doministry
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Posted: 2008-12-20 20:03
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Lol,

thanks.
A lot, although I don't use Bluetooth headphones at all, so I will not cry for some of the problems.
Actually, Bluetooth implementation seems quite problematic for most WM devices....
Thanks anyway!

P.S. It doesn't recognize your playlists, but which? Created on the PC or in the X1?
borisisinvin
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Posted: 2008-12-20 20:46
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They're were all created on a computer.... It actually only recognizes one out of the 5 created...
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Vau, Boris that's horrible. For me A2DP is a must have. I daily use HBH DS970 and MBS200 with my P1 and the sound is great + everything works as it is suppose to be. I never looked at Iphone because it doesn't have A2DP on the first place but now it looks X1 is not so far away. What I miss in my P1 is PC experience of Skype calls (you and the other person can't talk simultaneously) and smoothly playing H264 files via core player. How X1 handles those areas? Thanks
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Posted: 2008-12-21 01:14
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@borisissinvin

I use TomTom Navigator 7 for turn by turn navigation. It is fast on X1 compared to any other phone that I've tried before.

@Koto

I use Venturi mini bluetooth in the car and A2DP works well. The music is played through my car speaker and I can navigate the contacts and see the contact names through my Car Stereo display which also can be seen through my Car Dashboard Meter. But there is a trick to copy the contacts to the Venturi Mini. I heard Parrot MKi is also a great bluetooth product....

As for VOIP, I'm using VoipBuster and SJphone application for VOIP calls. I heard you can use fring as well and I'm not mistaken they are working to direct the voip sound to the phone earpiece instead of the speakerphone. At the moment, I have to use the speakerphone for Voip.
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@ borisisinvin:

Haha, jeeez I cant believe you actually had the patience to test that useless mediapanel that thoroughly.
I glanced at it for like five minutes when I first got my X1, decided to add it to the "epic fail"-list of software and have never tried it since.
If SE ever release a fw-upgrade I might give it another chance...

[ This Message was edited by: Golgo on 2008-12-21 09:19 ]
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Guys I need a help. Just get my X1 and I have a questions:

1. How can I delete O2 panels? The phone was purchased from O2-UK store

2. From where I can download Google panel?

I am appreciate your help and advice.


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On 2008-12-21 13:41:05, rustam07 wrote:
Guys I need a help. Just get my X1 and I have a questions:

1. How can I delete O2 panels? The phone was purchased from O2-UK store

2. From where I can download Google panel?

I am appreciate your help and advice.



1. You don't have to delete the O2 panel. But you must unlock the panel. You need file explorer like total commander to get to the registry setting. Go to :-

\\registry\HKLM\software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\Panels\O2 panel\

Then, under `locked' item, change the number to 0.


2. You can download google panel from XDA-developer. You have to copy all the folders and files in the google panel and replace all the files on your O2 panel. This is why you have to unlock O2 panel. And you must make sure the image files under the google panel use the same file name in your O2 panel (this is because these filenames related to the one in your O2 panel registry).

Hope this help.

Or... maybe there is other way that can install google panel easily without copying all the files. But, to delete the O2 panel, you must unlock it first.

[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2008-12-21 14:41 ]
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Posted: 2008-12-21 19:26
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MyP910,

Thanks a lot mate !
borisisinvin
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On 2008-12-21 10:19:13, Golgo wrote:
@ borisisinvin:

Haha, jeeez I cant believe you actually had the patience to test that useless mediapanel that thoroughly.
I glanced at it for like five minutes when I first got my X1, decided to add it to the "epic fail"-list of software and have never tried it since.
If SE ever release a fw-upgrade I might give it another chance...

[ This Message was edited by: Golgo on 2008-12-21 09:19 ]


It's not so much that I had the patience to test it all, it's that I've actually been using it day in and day out since getting it. I just don't want to pay for a media player at this point after paying so much for something I thought would just work. I'll be looking at some freeware stuff that others have recommended at this point, even though I don't really like delving into the depths of WM to open apps...

@ koto I too really depend on my Stereo Bluetooth connection daily, and like you this is a big reason (well, that and the whole being a AT&T exclusivity thing) why I've stayed far far away from the iPhone. I was really hoping for a similar bluetooth experience on my X1 like the one found on my N95 8GB (which was flawless IMHO), but unfortunately it's been nothing like it in so far. I'm just starting to think that maybe the problem with Stereo Bluetooth's implementation maybe with WM?... I've had nothing but trouble with the stereo bluetooth connection in conjunction with both the media panel and WMP. Maybe it'll be different with a freeware media player? We'll see...

As to the Skype question, tbh I don't know since I've never used it before. Sorry I couldn't be more help to you in that area. As for H264 files the Media panel handles them beautifully! ATM I have about 3 films (one feature and two short) saved on my memory card that it plays with no problems! I really like the nice big finger friendly media controls that it has for controlling your films. The only thing that I kind of don't like about the movie player (built into the media panel) is that it pauses playback anytime you access the control panel, but other than that it's pretty damn good! Hope that helps.
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Posted: 2008-12-21 21:29
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@boris
It helped a lot, thank you very much. Dogman said a similar thing about video player. Don't know what to say. But some problems you experience are absolutely not acceptable, I fully understand your frustration. It will be interesting to hear doministry's impression. Thanks again
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Posted: 2008-12-22 00:04
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Strange question, but does anyone have a copy of the O2 Panel to install / download? i'm an O2 UK Customer but aquired a generic Xperia and would like to see what the O2 Panel is all about since O2 Active on the Xperia seams somewhat limited.

Any help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.
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