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Tahir Ally
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@ BRIX25.Vodashop gives you a 2 year warranty on all handsets which covers the entire cost of the phone..................Some might kill me for saying this......Any Vodashop or Vodacom dealer that does alot of contracts + starterpacks and has been trading for long time will have a huge customer base.These Vodashops commision every month are over R100 000 and even million.Some Vodashops belong to the same people.Did you know if there is a Vodashop in a shopping mall and in the same mall has a VODACOM4U or a Vodacare, the owners are all one.Thats why these stores add a high mark up because they will preffer to sell you a contract.Another thing the prices in UK are cheap because that market is saturated + all the manufactures have factory in those countries so they pay no import or duty cost.India and China sell 5 mill phones a month we don't even do there monthly sales in a year in SA.So volumes brings down prices.Wait for Vodafone branded handsets and you will see prices drop
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brix25
Joined: Aug 20, 2003
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The SA market is also pretty saturated. And no, they don't make phones in Europe, all are made in Asia, especially China. Like I said before...the day any network starts branding their phones they can forget about me as a customer, I don't think I'm the only one feeling this way.
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Tahir Ally
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@Brix Most new phones that will be available on Vodacom will be Vodafone branded in future.You have to buy a Vodafone branded handset to you use Vodafone Live.Did you know in the UK most of Vodafone customers are on 3G.If Vodafone has to turn of its GSM network today,only 2 million customer will be affected and i read some where on esato that in 2006 2G phones will not be sold in UK,when phones come out the UK networks dont test them.Thats why there are so many people complaininng in other countries of defaults in phones.In SA it has to be ICASA approved than network approved.I am not saying we dont have problems with our phones.These testing delays launching of products and costs are added.
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brix25
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I'd prefer a bug-free phone than being the first on the block with a particular model. Vodacom can brand their phones as they like, when I eventually get myself a 3G phone I wouldn't want it branded... So no Vodafone Live for me then.
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Rhino8
Joined: Jan 07, 2005
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From: South Africa (Bloemfontein)
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@brix & tahir
In order for me to get a vodafone branded handset, i would really have to get kickass service.
At this moment you can phone customer care only 30 times per month, which in most cases are more than enough but sometimes it takes you up to 10 or 15 calls to fix a problem.
Another thing, MTN only had free gprs because their gprs network had loads and loads of bugs.
To be honest, i am the type of guy that really goes out looking for extras. If MTN decides to give free gprs at the moment....
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brix25
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...then you'd take it. We know South Africans love free stuff. Back to MTN, when I used their free GPRS hardly experienced problem...on average downloaded 80kb items on my trusty old T300 ...but if I had to download 1Mb files on their network don't know...one thing I do is I'd have to have bags of money.
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Aalpha001
Joined: Mar 21, 2005
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On 2005-03-25 23:33:49, brix25 wrote:
And no, they don't make phones in Europe, all are made in Asia, especially China.
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On the contrary,some phones are manufactured in Europe.
Nokia is in Finland
Ericsson is in Sweden
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brix25
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@Alpha001: Next time you remove your battery It will most likely say your phone was either made in China or Indonesia. Nokia might be from Finland and Ericsson from Sweden but they haven't made phones there for years.
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Rhino8
Joined: Jan 07, 2005
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On 2005-03-26 12:10:26, brix25 wrote:
...then you'd take it. We know South Africans love free stuff. Back to MTN, when I used their free GPRS hardly experienced problem...
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Haha.... If you call not being able to download a 20kb ringtone during the day good service and no problems.... Well i don't
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brix25
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When you've got about 250k new users on your network you would get problems.
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mario2002
Joined: Feb 15, 2004
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@ Tahir In one of your previous posts you state Vodafone to have more UMTS subscriber then GSM ! Can you give us a link ? Where did you get that from ? All what I could find on the net was that Vodafone only began rolling out UMTS on a grand scale as from last year.I know you have made in the past some 'dubious revelations' but this really border to ridicule.
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brix25
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LOL....Tahir is a salesman first, so he's trying to convince everyone and perhaps himself that 3G is the equivalent of cellular Nirvana. Vodafone only started 3G in November last year and already everyone on their network decided to ditch their GSM handsets for a trustry UMTS handset...LOL 
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Rhino8
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Its hard but im waiting to get a 3g phone. Maybe untill december.
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brix25
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@Rhino: December won't be too bad, hopefully prices would've come down, MTN would've launched their service, and number portabality would make changing networks all that easier.
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Tahir Ally
Joined: May 29, 2003
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Vodafone UK had 3G since the last quarter of 2003.In 2003 they were selling the mobile connect card only in Nov 04 they had a range of phones.If you want to wait for MTN to launch 3G it might even be early 2006.I know MTN promsed us 3G this coming JUNE,they also promised us EDGE.But MTN is keeping so quiet and no EDGE.By 2006 Vodacom will almost have the whole country covered with 3G.
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