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Supa_Fly
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Posted: 2010-07-17 20:04
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On 2010-07-17 14:04:37, AbuBasim wrote:

On 2010-07-17 12:29:41, Nanu wrote:
Isn't that what 'Jesus' did on stage in front of the worlds media yesterday????

kettle = black
pot = black


Actually I agree to that. Not fair towards RIM. Maybe Nokia had it coming after their How do you hold your Nokia? post. Especially since they do warn owners against covering the antenna in all the users guides.

Having said that I can't find any of those pictures on the web Jobs was talking about with stickers saying 'don't touch here' on Nokia phones. I feel betrayed (*starts crying again*)
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Well Apple is still behind RIM when it comes to worldwide sales. So yes they're going to target RIM which has been KNOWN to have incredible signal & voice quality in all their phones. They have a university stock full of engineers - Waterloo University is THE polytechnical higher education in Ontario, possibly the best in the country (I live just 112km away). That said RIM already picked a fight with Apple just 2mths ago with stating 4 BB's can use the same data bandwidth as just 1 iPhone; with 3BB's vs 1 other smartphone of any OS. I see this as an isolated issue with iPhone 4 - and I've used 9700 for months since December (no issues) and the ONLY other phone I know of with external antenna is the SE Z520 which still did NOT exhibit death grip.

Its about time Apple stepped up to the plate - and you better believe that its due to 3 pending lawsuits awaiting the go-ahead in the USA along with hurting sales. 1.7 million in 3days to 3million in 22days of iPhone 4 sales is a serious slow down ... you better believe its hitting Apple where it counts.

Does that stop ME from wanting one ... HELL KNOW! Its more about the infrastructure that appeals me to the iPhone vs just calls. I'm not forced to purchase it and at least I know now what I'm getting into.
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Posted: 2010-07-17 20:22
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On 2010-07-17 19:26:18, Jkovacz wrote:

I prefer 4 lookswise. What other phone looks like it?


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Posted: 2010-07-17 23:28
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Has anyone pre-ordered / gotten his Vapor 4 from ElementCase?
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Posted: 2010-07-18 13:42
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The British Airways app has now been updated to V2 and can be used as a boarding pass (Mail Online article)

I've used the app for online checkin but this is an excellent new feature and I hope other airlines etc go totally paperless!

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Posted: 2010-07-18 16:17
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On 2010-07-18 13:42:01, masseur wrote:
The British Airways app has now been updated to V2 and can be used as a boarding pass (Mail Online article)


I've used the app for online checkin but this is an excellent new feature and I hope other airlines etc go totally paperless!





Now that will be very useful,no longer having to fiddle in the pocket when you at the boarding gate hope we get this on Android
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Posted: 2010-07-18 16:40
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well, I guess you'd still have to fiddle in your pocket to find your phone... unless you're like me where it rarely leaves my hand
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Posted: 2010-07-18 21:34
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Lads and ladettes, a bit of a heads up here;

I had a bit of something stuck between the casing and antenna - nothing major, just a bit of fluff. As it was right in the gap I tried to use the tip of my nail to softly edge it out. But to my shock I seemed somehow to scrape off a bit of the coating from the antenna and now have a small black mark there And I was being VERY VERY careful as its my new toy
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Posted: 2010-07-18 21:45
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did you try blowing it first?

btw, a heads up that finger physics is the freeappaday app and I've been having quite a bit of fun with it
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Posted: 2010-07-18 22:09
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On 2010-07-18 21:45:48, masseur wrote:
did you try blowing it first?

btw, a heads up that finger physics is the freeappaday app and I've been having quite a bit of fun with it



Yup, I did try blowing it out first But that didn't suffice nor did rubbing the tip of my skinny finger along the edge I had no choice but to gently use my not so long nor sharp finger nail

The thing is falling apart and I've only had it a day and half
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Posted: 2010-07-18 22:13
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PS Masseur, heard any rumours about a Jailbreak? I NEED Lockscreen.

I've searched the App Store for a Lockscreen App but that t0$$er BJ - I mean SJ - doesn't seem to allow any to squeeze through!
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Posted: 2010-07-19 09:48
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@scouser...

comex and planetbeing are workin on the Jailbreak... they have one ready but have to remove all the apple software in it before they can release so that Apple cant get it removed off any websites once released.

I reckon it will prob be out in next couple of weeks now that apple released 4.0.1 lol.
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Posted: 2010-07-19 11:54
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I cannot believe how totally amused i am by this whole antennagate debacle. As much as i like the iPhone 4 for its usual innovations and fun to use interface, the fact Apple are now trying to downplay their own screw up by insulting other manufacturers is completely unprofessional and almost childish.

They just seem to be digging a deeper whole for themselves as each day passes.

Why dont they just dig deep into their pockets, give the iPhone 4 a proper antenna, recall all the current phones and replace them with fixed versions. It might cost them billions, but its their own fault and should live by it.

As always however, from my own personal standpoint, this isnt something which would stop me buying an iPhone 4, its complete lack of features i NEED on a day to day basis prevents me from buying one.
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Posted: 2010-07-19 13:02
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what features?


been using mine for a couple of weeks now, have to say i used a 3GS on saturday (which i thought was the best phone ive ever owned) and i definitely wouldn't want to go back. Also felt cheap and poorly made in comparison to my iP4.
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Posted: 2010-07-19 13:57
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@etaab i also would like to know what 'Features' you would 'Need' to have and use everyday that arent on the iPhone 4?

I agree that whats happened with the antenna is poor but at least Apple are doing something to remedy it and have provided lots of supporting evidence to prove other phones do it as well.

If apple had included a sticker on the phone like Nokia do with their phones would all of this happened?

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Posted: 2010-07-19 13:58
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All sorts. Mainly the lack of a proper multitasking OS and terrible Bluetooth support. The camera isnt up to my standards either. Since buying a Satio last year i dont think id want to step down to a lower megapixel count and lack of Xenon flash. I also make quite a few video calls each week - again the iPhone 4 falls flat here with only wifi video calling to other iPhones.

As sophisticated as the iPhone is, its still pretty basic in its functioning (IMO).

Put this latest antenna issue with the features the iPhone 4 lacks, amongst other issues i have with it, all make me think Apple are becoming the kings of bad ideas.

I love the new screen on the iPhone 4 however, no matter how much i squint, i cannot even see individual pixels.

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On 2010-07-19 13:57:53, voda_jon wrote:

I agree that whats happened with the antenna is poor but at least Apple are doing something to remedy it and have provided lots of supporting evidence to prove other phones do it as well.

If apple had included a sticker on the phone like Nokia do with their phones would all of this happened?




But they aren't. Otherwise we'd see a mass recall and a new version released with the antenna more logically placed. What sticker would that be then ? im not sure what you mean. I agree however, Apple are right, other phones do suffer from the same problem, its the laws of physics - its not something only Apple have discovered though. They are just trying to take the heat off themselves by looking at other manufacturers but its pointless. Where Apple have fell on their faces is down to poor design. Other manufacturers have thought of similar antenna designs as Apple but not used it after realising its more vulnerable to this type of issue. Maybe we could put this whole mess down to Apple's inexperience in developing mobile phones ?

Its pretty obvious to anyone to put the antenna high up on the phones casing to improve reception, not bury it in the palm of the users hand !
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