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mamba
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Posted: 2006-10-13 14:05
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On 2006-10-12 21:13:29, Areafada wrote:
i dont think celtel needs ur pity pxthomas and mamba, cause i'm sure they will ave done a comprehensive survey of our telecomms market and am sure they'll ave a good business plan for profitability b4 buying into v mobile.

For sure, they would have done all their projections and cash flows based on the assumption that prices will remain at 80k/sec. Things have actually changed now and I'm sure they didn't anticipate that MTN will drop prices so quickly. I once used to recharge my celtel line, but i've since moved to MTN. remember there are many others like me out there. The longer they waste time to react, their market share gets eroded. That's why i pity them.
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Posted: 2006-10-13 14:36
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On 2006-10-13 11:08:34, Ifedisky wrote:
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On 2006-10-13 01:00:00, brix25 wrote:
I should be in bed but I'm working the nightshift on Esato. Greetings to all my connects in Naija who are abusing free midnight calls.


abuse eh?!
@all:Was on Glo freebie yesternight.Was a lovely feeling clarity wise and connection wise.Takes at most three dials to set up a call although they keep dropping the call after one hour presicely.Did from twelve to three a.m.


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Posted: 2006-10-13 17:29
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On 2006-10-12 21:13:29, Areafada wrote:
i dont think celtel needs ur pity pxthomas and mamba, cause i'm sure they will ave done a comprehensive survey of our telecomms market and am sure they'll ave a good business plan for profitability b4 buying into v mobile.



Celtel will keep losing subs on a daily basis to MTN or Glo while they try to turn Vmo into a proper Cel-clone. Instead of looking at the GSM war that is breaking out all around them, they are busy launching Me2U and Celtel 50. All these are offered in every Celtel network. See the Nigeria page @ Celtel.com

@Amby ... vampire hours? Great name.

@Abu and others ooogling at us MTEL GPRS guys:
The party is over. MTEL cleared out my N410 yesterday when they started billing. I saw a "negative" balance of -N30.00 before i made enquiries. They are charging N6/minute...

And yes, I am upset.

@All "Glo vs MTN" is what I wrote about this week.

Did you know Glo grew by over 3 million subs this year? Meanwhile MTN is yet to grab one million new subs since December 2005. As I wrote in the article, "MTN Strategists must be having sleepless nights... and a few ulcers."

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Posted: 2006-10-13 18:00
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On 2006-10-11 15:27:37, brym! wrote:
MTN'S rate crash has extended to postpaid customers. Who can beat this?

Monthly Access: 1,500
MTN 2 MTN : 27k/sec
MTN 2 Others : 37k/sec
MTN 2 MTN SMS: N5
SMS 2 Others: N12
Int. calls: 67k/sec
GPRS: 60k/kb
Unlimited GPRS: N12,000/month

I called Glo customer care to inform them of these rates and warned them that I'll drop my postpaid line by month end if they have no response MTN's offer.
Good running MTN, keep it up!



@AYA Take a good look at these rates again. I really don't see the big advantage. U may get 33k/sec all-round for just N500 monthly access on the new Xtra Special product. Why are they keeping datas rate so high????

The rest are just tiny savings that may not amount to much. Most Big Boys cannot even send a proper SMS without assistance.
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Posted: 2006-10-14 06:33
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On 2006-10-13 18:00:54, coolapostle wrote:
@AYA Take a good look at these rates again. I really don't see the big advantage. U may get 33k/sec all-round for just N500 monthly access on the new Xtra Special product. Why are they keeping datas rate so high????

The rest are just tiny savings that may not amount to much. Most Big Boys cannot even send a proper SMS without assistance.


@coola: Why is this directed at me? That was brym!

But anyway, you must understand that brym! and I are a little different from the average consumer. Personally, I make VERY few calls. My GSM monthly bill from GloMobile usually indicates 85% of my usage is GPRS and 10% SMS. The rest is call usage.

I can guess that brym! was looking at the fixed monthly GPRS rate, because that's the attraction for me too. It currently beats what Starcomms, Multilinks, Intercellular, GloMobile - name it - are offering for internet access.

For me, a flat monthly billing for GPRS means bye-bye to obscene internet access spending! I have already approved for my key mobile staff to be allocated MTN contract lines and subscribe for the unlimited GPRS thing shortly.

If GloMobile responds before they do, we will share the cake between them and MTN. If they do not, too bad: MTN will carry the day.

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@amby: I'm a model so I cant post up my photo without getting paid!!!! All these late night call options are not too attractive to me. (though i bought a MTN line day before!!!) If they give cheaper calls at off-peak, say 15-20 bucks a min, that will be a real deal.

@Ifed: lets see what happens by this xmas. It might be a real royal rumble!!!

@areaf: you remind me of a friend that says she doesnt have time to call or text becos of work. Like it takes a brain surgeon to post up while eating lunch. Carry go!!!!

@coola: didnt i come up with the "vampire" hours? No copyright!!!!! they cant charge gprs per min. it has to be per kb.
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Posted: 2006-10-14 14:49
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@abu...haba! 15-20k per sec.
well it will surely come to that in the nearest future


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Posted: 2006-10-14 21:26
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On 2006-10-14 10:51:50, abubakar wrote:
@amby: .... If they give cheaper calls at off-peak, say 15-20 bucks a min, that will be a real deal.



Guess Glo's "off-peak" hours.... 10pm to 12pm!!!!
Is it legal for them to keep shifting the goal posts like that?

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@coola: didnt i come up with the "vampire" hours? No copyright!!!!! they cant charge gprs per min. it has to be per kb.



Oh, sorry... must have missed the post. Wonderful term Abu.

Talking about Vamp Hours, I will be available on weekends for anyone interested. Yes, it is difficult gettin someone u can disturd at that strange hour.... but I did repay someone who had called me before. The call quality on Glo was good. And I didn't dial more than once.

My Glo is: 0805-505-6747 (most of the old-timers already have it)
My MTN is... er... I never really memorised the number. One of those pick-n-use SIM's. And I can only receive calls on it since I am not ready to load any N100 credit on it. Glo allows calls without any such conditions.


@AYA ...sorry o! I guess I just associated u with a Contract Package... like Amby did with CDMA some posts back. I wonder why that is happenin

@Abu Nope, I asked for confirmation from my pal and he said it was N6/min and not per kb.

I noticed NO ONE is crying with me over the end of the MTEL GPRS party? hehehe... God de. Eat alone and die alone.
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Posted: 2006-10-15 15:22
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On 2006-10-14 21:26:15, coolapostle wrote:
@Abu Nope, I asked for confirmation from my pal and he said it was N6/min and not per kb.


How can that be? GPRS is charged per packet worldwide, not on time spent
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On 2006-10-14 21:26:15, coolapostle wrote:
I noticed NO ONE is crying with me over the end of the MTEL GPRS party? hehehe... God de. Eat alone and die alone.


Na so my brother

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On 2006-10-13 14:05, Mamba wrote:
I once used to recharge my celtel line, but i've since moved to MTN. remember there are many others like me out there. The longer they waste time to react, their market share gets eroded. That's why i pity them.


Me too. I havent recharged my Celtel line in a week now, ordinarily, I would have spent N7,000 minimum. Same thing with my Land line.
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One mans poison is another mans meat. While amby and mamba and dropping Celtel, it has now become my hot favourite because it is the only way I can browse the net for free. After abandoning it for months I have just gotten Celtel wap working again. I am using it now for this post. Speed is great probably because I am the only person in Abuja using it. The internet via pc is proving tougher. So, guys, just dont chew the sim yet.

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Ok, finally got the Celtel GPRS for free internet access. It worked with the old IP address. But the speed is pathetic. Can't get anything worthwhile done at these speeds: Max 1.3 KB/s Download speeds of 0.1-2.5? Haba?

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@pxth: Dont allow those old claims that the GSM cos have been giving to fool you. If PTOs could survive on making local tariffs less than N10 why cant the GSM cos? its not magic. The major drawback is thier reluctance to expand thier equipement. The more subscribers they can handle simultaneously, the less the costs will be. They want to milk the nation with the least capital input and most profit generated output. NCC is supposed o be our saviour, but with them INCREASING interconnection fees for PTOs, who's side are they on?

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@Abu Nope, I asked for confirmation from my pal and he said it was N6/min and not per kb.



I agree with Amby. i will call my guy to find out. But since its not a CSD connection, i wonder how they can do that

Dont complain about awoof speeds, it better than none!!!



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Posted: 2006-10-16 15:08
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On 2006-10-16 14:03:34, abubakar wrote:
NCC is supposed be our saviour, but with them INCREASING interconnection fees for PTOs, who's side are they on?




The NCC had some consultants work out these figures since the networks have refused to work things out themselves. What stops them from collectively reducing the price of SMS? it has remained at N15 for five years! If they (the GSM Guys) had met and dropped the interconnection fee from N18 to N13-14, we would have been fooled into praising them for reducing the rate. But, no, they refused until the NCC waded in. Now it is like N12.

Moreover, the PTO's are not complaining. They seem to be happy that they cam make more ARPU.

I see them rushing free all-night calls too just to remain relevant.
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Posted: 2006-10-16 15:49
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On 2006-10-16 12:39:30, coolapostle wrote:
Ok, finally got the Celtel GPRS for free internet access. It worked with the old IP address. But the speed is pathetic. Can't get anything worthwhile done at these speeds: Max 1.3 KB/s Download speeds of 0.1-2.5? Haba?




why are you complaining. Abi nor b free
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Posted: 2006-10-16 16:18
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Moreover, the PTO's are not complaining. They seem to be happy that they cam make more ARPU.



Dont say that! So many people I know are now using thier pto phones less and less since this happened. It makes more sense to put all your money in one gsm phone and go for one off the special packages aimed at high loaders rather than put small in pto, small in gsm1, small in gsm 2

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