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KU
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Posted: 2009-08-26 16:27
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SE isn't all for symbian you've got some android and winmo coming but maemo remain untouchable before android caught up so

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Posted: 2009-08-27 08:27
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We all love SE but Vit is right.
I was really into this device but now I have no idea which phone to buy. Vit pointed out the weaknesses of the phone well.

I hate Nokia and Apple, don't like the way Samsung handles things. Win Mobile is rubbish but I definetely need an OS. There is nothing left than buying Satio
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Posted: 2009-08-27 16:09
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Now that even Nokia is ditching symbian on the highends - see how they make the n97 and its owners look silly with the announcement of the n900 - WHY SE did not go full way with android instead of s60 v5 crap?
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Posted: 2009-08-27 16:56
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Symbian is gonna evolve with or without Nokia...
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Posted: 2009-08-27 22:23
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any1 wana explain why people keep going on about android? ive used the G1. Its shit. As for the hd thing, i find it easy to transfer the hd vid to the ps3. It looks excellent on my plasma..also, with custom roms for the hd now being available, its potential is massive. See the rom thread on i8910 forums to see the implementation of kastor ui for example..
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Posted: 2009-08-27 22:39
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@jj03
So your point is Omnia HD is a great phone or Satio will be great like Omnia HD?
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Posted: 2009-08-28 12:32
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i think satio has huge potential. However, wheather that potential will be realised is another thing. I do think that the hd is slightly different in that the handset has opened up a rom modding community. Already, they have released updates wìth some fantastic additions.
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Posted: 2009-08-28 15:52
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On 2009-08-27 22:23:00, jj03 wrote:
any1 wana explain why people keep going on about android? ive used the G1. Its shit. As for the hd thing, i find it easy to transfer the hd vid to the ps3. It looks excellent on my plasma..also, with custom roms for the hd now being available, its potential is massive. See the rom thread on i8910 forums to see the implementation of kastor ui for example..


Look awesome? Are you sure? 1080p movies in H264 are only good for display on large screens with a minimun avg bit rate of 8000 and 9000 for action movies. If they have DTS soundtracks, these should be even bigger. Those files could reach 17 gigs for movies like Watchmen. Satio will come with 8 gigs of external storage. 16 gigs microsd cards I have seen are way too slow to sustain good bitrates like that or to deliver the peaks of data transfer. Even if it could handle those bit rates, the hardware wouldn't cope with that. 1080p movies with less than those bit rates would present awful problems like artifacts and the like. HD movies' forums don't even allow people to post things like nanoHD or microHD movies. Those are cr@p to watch on big screens. There are no miracles here.

Mobile devices like cel phones cannot cope with really good HD movies, yet, be it due to lack of storage or due to insufficient bandwidth/processor speed.

I do not see all that potencial in Satio, although I still consider to buy it when the price drops down.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-08-28 14:55 ]
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Posted: 2009-08-28 17:58
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Hate to break the usual discussion, but satio will be out by october 9th according to the se uk store(sorry if it was a repost)
http://www.se-store.co.uk/ind[....]ail&dm_i=7U9,1RYX,V3MT8,5OH5,1
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Posted: 2009-08-28 22:43
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@vit.. The hd's 720p output looks excellent on my panasonic viera. . It's 42inch. The bitrate of the record'd videos are huge. I have some from tuesday when i visited old trafford, . Here's one of the vid details : 1280 x 720 bitrate: 8644292 bit/s framerate : 24 fps.. Yes. I'm sure it looks fantastic.
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Posted: 2009-08-28 23:10
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On my G900 Google Calendar looks very nicely in Opera 9.5 beta. But there is no way to edit it.

@rog: Can you try out Google Calendar on Satio and tell us if you can edit it? That were really helpful!
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Posted: 2009-08-29 03:22
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@jj03

Any chance that community still fools around with i8910's lil cousin (i8510) ?
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Posted: 2009-08-29 12:02
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@gtr83, i'm afraid the community thats doing the cooked rom's etc for the hd are specific to the hd as its a i8910 users forum..its a shame because the innov8 is a great handset. Better than alot of new devices.
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Posted: 2009-08-30 12:51
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On 2009-08-22 01:13:45, ofiaich wrote:

On 2009-08-17 13:48:54, DarkKrypt wrote:

On 2009-08-16 17:59:52, ofiaich wrote:
@DarkKrypt,

thanks! I guess it is only the Australian C905 that can display Japanese? Input would be great too!

Ofiaich

it has some input too lol
February satio is coming out next year...in Australia lol importing satio instead.
[ This Message was edited by: DarkKrypt on 2009-08-17 12:51 ]



so I would need to get a C905 flashed to a generic Australian firmware?

I guess input works, ka, ki, ku, ke, ko etc...?

Ofiaich
[ This Message was edited by: ofiaich on 2009-08-22 16:03 ]


i had a fiddle with the c905 it has simplified chinese and thai(i think it was) that have their own unique characters..
to use chinese you can only use 1,2,3,4,5,6 at first then and if you want to make the character more complex you press any of the 6 numbers in a combination eg. 1 then 4 or 2 then 5 which makes many different characters..


also i got to ask as i need to verify this since the satio aka idou has the Symbian Series 60, 5th edition system,,can it run applications and games that were made for the 5800xm and n97?
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Posted: 2009-08-30 13:12
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Satio vs N86

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