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Bonovox
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After a weekend of photography out with my brother and seeing his pics even beside the best camera phones. I still think nothing beats a proper DSLR or even my brothers Fuji bridge camera. The level of detail is amazing on this camera compared to ANY camera phone.
http://www.jessops.com/online[....]-bridge-camera-89226/show.html
Even after seeing the latest image taken by Sylwester despite being great it's still soft and nothing can still beat a proper camera except maybe camera phones are close to many cheap compacts but not a DSLR. Yes it's all handy with an all in one device but for real quality there is still no competition in my view
This image is great but looking closely the 808 is quite soft and has soft edges. And even worse on the 1020
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=72352
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2013-09-29 23:09 ] Phone?? What phone?? |
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cu015170
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^ where ? Can you crop the affected area ? To me it seems pretty sharp across the frame..
And no, nothing can beat a DSLR.. they are made for taking photographs. |
Bonovox
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No I mean the image as a whole looking at it close up is seems quite soft
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cu015170
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That's up to the user.. if you max out the sharpness they get quite sharp
example:
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]ureview/201305190857Gf8oIY.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3761/9940320034_ba71cf0016_o.jpg
The more sharpness you use, the more grain.. the 808, in auto mode is set for minimum grain.
The 1020 is set for max sharpness, but the images have more grain to them.
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false_morel
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If you examine the shadows the two photos were taken at a completely different time of the day. Not just at different distant days.
Also though with the 1020 it was mostly shiny, those clouds do make a difference compared to the all clear sky on the 808's photo.
As to the distortion, it's cause of the angle!
Look at the horizon, when you place the camera parallel to the horizon one could achieve zero distortion. (not talking about geometrical distortion here)
In the 1020's photo it was placed upwards while the 808 was parallel..
And then another major difference is the exposure value..
The 808 had more than two stops advantage! 3 stops faster SS, and two thirds of a stop less on the ISO.. One could factor in the quarter stop in aperture as well.. Still more than 2 stops advantage.. I guess it used the ND filter there.. |
false_morel
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On 2013-09-30 01:30:01, cu015170 wrote:
That's up to the user.. if you max out the sharpness they get quite sharp
example:
The more sharpness you use, the more grain.. the 808, in auto mode is set for minimum grain.
The 1020 is set for max sharpness, but the images have more grain to them.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2013-09-30 00:31 ]
The 1020 goes sharper than this but of course overdoing and not necessarily the correct approach at such scenes..
But under most lighting conditions, the 808 does tend to stay soft with lower contrast.. Which is the neutral approach.. |
false_morel
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This thread has motivated me to do a photo shoot out between my DSLR and 920 
Don't know, just for fun.. And will not put both cameras on auto.. Would shoot auto and my own setting for each scene..
Will have a tripod as well..
I don't know anyone with an 808 or 1020 unfortunately..
The 1020 was just released in Germany.. One of my friends is planning though to upgrade his 920 to the 1020.. I will have all the hands on I need if he decides to..
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etaab
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This thread is getting out of hand. Bonovox is now talking about DSLRs.
Theres no point. The whole point of cameraphones is that being a mobile phone they go everywhere with you. If I wanted the maximum quality id never buy a cameraphone. Theres 4K cameras or whatever they're called, you can have a DSLR or a dedicated compact. But you cant take them everywhere. In essence we're still talking about mobile phones.
So in regards to mobile phones, the 808 takes the better pictures and the 1020 comes close, possibly better with a future update.
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Bonovox
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http://m.wpcentral.com/take-lumia-1020-photo-studio-and-you-ll-get-stunning-results
Studio shots of a model taken with 1020
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cu015170
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Heavily processed, no full resolution.. no way to see how it really did.
Regardless, I was reading a magazine yesterday and the cover photo was taken with a 1020 |
etaab
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Which magazine was that ? id like to see that picture.
I couldn't care less about the studio shots, I wont ever be doing that at home.
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Sonysta
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Nokia's PureView Copied ? Lumia 1020 PureView Vs Sony Xperia Z1 Cam Shootout !!!
allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/18471_Nokias_PureView_copied_Lumia_1.php |
McKinley
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I went to a galleria here near where I live. Microsoft has an area where staffs were demoing surface 2, Pro and Lumia 1020.
For me it was refreshing to try something new and images did look great for being a phone.
@Bonovox
A cheap compact camera is the closest this will come to.
Regarding what you wrote before; I would say there is no cheap compact camera able to match DSLR.
The only ones able to match DSLR quality are the expensive ones from Sony RX100 II and RX100.
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lemmy31
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A very level headed opinion on the 1020 here :
http://pureviewclub.com/2013/17842
It a good read
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Bonovox
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKkIijzpZqI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Free running taken on Lumia 1020. Shot in Santorini in Greece. I went there in 1992 amazing place for photography
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Posted: 2013-09-30 00:06
GH688, T28, T39 and T68
T68, T610, Z600, T630, K700, S700, V800, K750, S600, M600, S500, P1i, K850, X1 X10, Vivaz
