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SL33PYH34D
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:07
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On 2007-04-21 00:37:54, ares wrote:
Its a bit pathetic all that n95 is so better crap, when the p700 has more than 2 times plus ram, and it just has to share k800 or k810 camera to have at least same image quality of n95. Add symbian 9.5, less weight and bulkiness, and i really cant see why the n95 is better

As both an P990i, N95 and former M600i owner I feel I am prety qualified to comment here.
Much as I am a bit of an SE fan at heart - and I love my UIQ devices - the N95 IMO whilst in general catering for a slightly different target segment to devices like the P700i excels in a number of areas where the existing and this M700i appear to be lacking - namely HSDPA support, UPNP/Media sharing, built in GPS, a beautiful 16M colour screen, a stable OS and GUI, and despite what some people seem to be claiming - battery life which is actually suprisingly good (and better than the P990i) for such a small feature packed device.
Even the Nokia PC Suite is light years ahead of SE's rather embarassing effort and not only works fully on Vista x64, but manages to sync many times quicker too.
Don't get me wrong - there are a number of weak points too, but it is difficult to simply dismiss the N95 because as a complete package it is really very compelling.
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:08
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On 2007-04-21 00:56:23, SL33PYH34D wrote:
I know this has been asked already, but I have yet to see an answer: Does this device support HSDPA or even HSUPA?
IMO much as I love the look and the rest of the specs, without at least 3.6Mpbs HSDPA support this device is a non starter for me.

Yes, it will be very interestiong if it is quadband GSM + triband HSDPA, but PK and Doctorpor only had a prototype which may be slighty different to the final porduct, so we have to wait until it's oficially announced to find out ALL these specs

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ares
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:16
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Sl33pyhead, i am not saying the n95 is a bad phone, its just not an alternative for people that use qwerty/touchscreen alot, and the p700 will have a serious hardware advantage (at least) by having much more RAM...
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Caspa
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:20
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Does it leak memory?

Even though it would surely take a month to make it enough for you to notice!!!

Definately gonna work on swindling one out of work when they are released (new BB Pearls are being rolled out and i've said i'll stick with my M600)!!!
PeterKay
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:20
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The RAM is a vast improvement from past models and a product like this needs it, weekend i'll do more tests and try tom tom as well if i get time.

Video recording is also on the agenda and watching more films too

If anyone wants more pictures of different angles, let me know.

Cheers
Dogmann
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:22
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Hi all,

Well the upped Ram count is an excellent move and i agree with others that there is nothing wrong with a 3.2 Mega Pixel camera either. It could of done with HSDPA as that just gives much more Data speed and the camera by now should have 3x Optical zoom and record VGA 640x480 30fps IMO.
The New Today with 15 extra customizable icons is also great and i actually like the look it of it much more than Z8 for sure. The only other really big questions are when will it start shipping and how much. Now if only this was how the M600 had launched what a different story that would of made.

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pcascais
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:24
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finally my first day posting limitation ended......!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, tks to PK and Doctor for the effort.

I must say I am really disappointed with P700. SE won't be successfull if they continue playing around..... It is like Windows Vista: "more of the same, with just some improvements" ....

I am used to have some "goodies" from SE ... but lately, there isn't a lot to say ... more wi.fi, less camera, more camera, updated os, m2 instead of duo and so on .... WHERE ARE the goodies?

(PS - I'm not saying this is a bad phone, I'm just saying I expected more from a company that wants to compete with the leader....).

[ This Message was edited by: pcascais on 2007-04-21 00:26 ]
alrodlop35
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:28
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@PeterKay:

Now that you ask, I'd like more back shots, as well as a close-up of the camera part.
McKinley
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:36
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Thanks for sharing your experience with us PK, much appreciated to say the least.
I was so damn close to order n95 plum but now after have seen those photos of yours, I'm absolutely certain I did the right decision to wait for this phone.
As I have wrote in that n95 thread over at MR. The photo quality of n95, leaves a lot to be desired. As much as I love the look and all its features do I dislike it for taking pictures with a lot of unnatural details.
Your sample shots taken by P700i, looks far better and actually better than any K-series phone I have seen.
Those were however not in full size and I would seriously love to see full size shots taken by your phone to confirm my observations.

Thanks in advance Peter!
remirez
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:40
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Drunk after aday of hard ok, tis look freaking good,
need to takr a llok again tomorrrow sober but i think, I will bu it.
laurenke01
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:41
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On 2007-04-21 01:40:04, remirez wrote:
Drunk after aday of hard ok, tis look freaking good,
need to takr a llok again tomorrrow sober but i think, I will bu it.




Sorry, that just made my day....well, that and the photos of all the new phones.
PeterKay
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:43
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@alrodlop35 and Mckinley,

I will post more pics tomorrow when i get a chance.

Remember that it's my first time writing a mini review and i'm not the best photographer, but will do my best.

Thanks
londonlad123
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:45
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On 2007-04-21 01:20:54, Caspa wrote:
Does it leak memory?


Thats the million dollar question.


A lot of its target audience are going to be put off mainly by the lack of hsdpa, which it really needs, everything else is covered imo for its target audience anyway.

@PK
Could you show us screens of the music player and radio, and any other changes from the p990/m600 UI. Cheers again for the pics.
PeterKay
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:47
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no problems londonlad, will do so tomorrow.
Caspa
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Posted: 2007-04-21 01:47
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On 2007-04-21 01:20:58, PeterKay wrote:
The RAM is a vast improvement from past models and a product like this needs it, weekend i'll do more tests and try tom tom as well if i get time.


Nice test would be;

Fresh Boot - Check Ram...
Open All Applications on Device! - Check Ram...
Using Task Manager 'Close All' - Check RAM...

Sure alot of people would be interested in those results!!!
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