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coolapostle Joined: Oct 15, 2004 Posts: 28 From: Abuja, Nigeria PM |
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On 2006-08-15 22:15:22, ambyzown wrote:
There has to be competition for any industry to grow, and I wholeheartedly welcome this decision. DSTv Nigeria, I can say charges the highest tarrif in the Pay per view industry worldwide.
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I think that is what caused their problems... the tariffs never change from year to year. There was NO WAY we would ever get 1k /mo for ANY bouquet on DsTV with the monopoly they had.
And all they did was just set up offices to collect money. I read that in the 15 years that they have been here, they never invested in even a studio.
At least, now we are sure things will change...
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abubakar Joined: Sep 15, 2005 Posts: 109 From: Nigeria PM, WWW
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@uchrik: I have never heard that before but this may be a new developement. how much does a post paid line go for anyhow? Im using prepaid and i guess Coola is too. I got my hook up long ago. Maybe Coola has more info to put forward.
@amby: this whole rights issue is straight forward. If say FIFA is selling exclusive broadcasting rights to Africa or parts thereof, once DSTV has picked it up no one should complain. Most likely Fstv was looking for rights in Naija only. If You were FIFA for example would you try to sell rights peicemeal and end up not getting All countries or would you sell it all in bulk!! If Fstv wants the rights they should step up as DSTV has over the years in their area of coverage and bid against DSTV next time.
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uchrik Joined: Feb 17, 2006 Posts: 3 From: Nigeria PM |
Abu,mtel customer care says that to acquire/change to postpaid status someone has to fill a form at their nearest office.I gather that required info hs a lot to do one's financial standing.With this I doubt whether the gprs is free or not.
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2tek Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 16 From: nigeria PM |
@abu, fine other dth operators can attempt to buy such rights,but it aint easy. I remember when mcn started then,it was a struggle too. But we need to give the new cats a level ground to make something out,more like a reset button.
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coolapostle Joined: Oct 15, 2004 Posts: 28 From: Abuja, Nigeria PM |
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On 2006-08-16 16:50:45, uchrik wrote:
Abu,mtel customer care says that to acquire/change to postpaid status someone has to fill a form at their nearest office.I gather that required info hs a lot to do one's financial standing.With this I doubt whether the gprs is free or not.
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I call the MTEL postpaid an "abracadabra" product...
Without an insider, you have to pay for MTEL... but why not go for the postpaid? After u are plugged into the netwrok, I can give u the apn I am using and maybe it will be free.
I don't think the requirements will be more than paying upfront and a bank account.
@Abu... FsTV and Co must be protected.
FIFA cannot kill our local DTH Guys because they want the highest bidder available. Multichoice cannot remain a monopoly all thru my adult life... haba!
Just watch... things will work out and the whole Cable industry will experience a major drop in prices and Premier League will be available for 1k/mo very soon. That is what is called PROGRESS.
Remember that MTN Nigeria CEO had told us that per second billing was not possible until 2007? Well... without Multi-choice, all those Prime shows will still become available one way or the other.... and for cheaper prices than today. In fact we will wish we had booted them out b4 the World Cup
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uchrik Joined: Feb 17, 2006 Posts: 3 From: Nigeria PM |
coola,I would be really grateful if you send me the apn and most grateful if you will give me an advice on how best to breakthrough and get an insider to do the job.
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coolapostle Joined: Oct 15, 2004 Posts: 28 From: Abuja, Nigeria PM |
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On 2006-08-16 18:27:37, uchrik wrote:
coola, I would be .......... most grateful if you will give me an advice on how best to breakthrough and get an insider to do the job.
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You -> Ayone U know in any GSM network -> Someone they know in MTEL -> someone in MTEL Switch -> Free MTEL GPRS
Actually, all I need to hear that something is possible for the solution to present itself. All I did was read what Abu had earlier said .... and I thought of how to do it myself.
Please read my previous posts on why it is difficult to immediately get others into MTEL.
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uchrik Joined: Feb 17, 2006 Posts: 3 From: Nigeria PM |
coola,thanks for the cue.I tried to read through previous posts but couldn't find the particular post you referred to.The bottleneck I have right now is that I dont have any close person working with any gsm company.My hope is that I may be able to get the desired link from here.
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ambyzown Joined: May 11, 2005 Posts: 231 From: Lagos-Nigeria PM |
@Abu: your analogy with the FIFA scenario is excellent. It also helps to buttress my point. If FIFA were to sell broadcast rights for a world cup tournament to say, NTA, even if NTA had the ability to cover the entire continent, it should allow local stations/operators to rebroadcast the matches at a fee right? MCN/DSTv has up until now refused to allow any form of rebroadcast. not for any fee. |
abubakar Joined: Sep 15, 2005 Posts: 109 From: Nigeria PM, WWW
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@2tek: that can be done in a fantasy world where we all drive Ferraris, live in mansions and our fridges are full of delicacies. The open market doesn’t work like that. What do you expect to be done? FIFA to sell its broadcasting rights to DSTV and Fstv? That can’t happen.
@coola: Protected from what? It’s not a monopoly. I would love to start my own GSM company but I don’t have the millions $$$ needed. Will you call it an oligopoly? The problem with Nigerians is that we love to get something for nothing (or next to nothing). DSTV subscription is high partly due to greed, partly due to licensing of their programmes. Fstv doesn’t want to pay high fees but wants premium programming. They should invest in improving our local FA then corner the rights to televise it. If FIFA/UEFA doesn’t charge such large amounts they won’t be able to give premium football. We want it for free! Why don’t we all also get free England Jerseys with Beckham’s signature? Do the Europeans get it cheap? No. Do they pay? Yes.
Lucky for me I don’t watch football so I don’t spend my hard earned salary on DSTV, Club jerseys or running around from sport clubs to shacking joints looking for a free viewing.
Do you know why MTN started per sec billing and prices came down? Glo made the infrastructural investment as well as paid all dues to NCC and gave competition. They didn’t whine that the $285M was too high or they didn’t get the opportunity to recoup like MTN or ECONET/Vodacom/Vmobile/???????. That is what has to happen with DSTV. Someone has to come in big or be innovative enough to bring something new to the table that DSTV cant easily take or mimic.
But if you want to see Prime television we need an economy that is commercially driven. When we have sponsors that are willing to pay for the advertizment then we can continue to enjoy our awoofism!!!!
@amby: the problem is that as with all products, the more available it is, the less valuable it becomes. if you can get it on NTA, DSTV and local stations, no one will like to subscribe to that network or advertizers would not want to pay for those periods. sometimes we have to step back from our perspective as a consumer and look at things as from a biz outlook.
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coolapostle Joined: Oct 15, 2004 Posts: 28 From: Abuja, Nigeria PM |
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On 2006-08-18 12:47:47, abubakar wrote:
@coola: Protected from what? It’s not a monopoly. I would love to start my own GSM company but I don’t have the millions $$$ needed.
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The GSM analogy does not stick. Except, say, MTN has "rights" for all International calls AND ALL of us have to go thru them for any international call.... then they refuse to re-sell to others AND the prices remain high for ever.
The "Biz" perspective is just another excuse to keep prices high because the company paid others for the "rights". I don't think the European DTH companies keep prices so high that it remains elitist for so long becuase they paid FIFA something. Multichoice shot itself in the foot and now their cashflow projections for the year will need some serious re-evaluation. No tears for them from me.
Now the NBC has its problems but I am sure there is something in their operational code that allows them to protect Nigerians from monopolistic businesses like Multichoice DSTV. With GSM SIM cards going for next to nothing, we want to see similar drops in the DTH space. Booting out Multichoice will take us a major step in that direction.
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coolapostle Joined: Oct 15, 2004 Posts: 28 From: Abuja, Nigeria PM |
Here is a link to the story in the Guardian:
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/media/article02
Some excerpts:
"No licensee shall acquire rights for broadcasting for the territory of Nigeria together with any other territory which presupposes the exclusion of any other Nigerian operator from having opportunity to acquire same."
The release went further to state that "where existing contractual agreements obtain, upon their lapse, subsequent rights acquisition agreement must designate Nigeria as a stand-alone territory."
The commission however clarified that "where such rights exist, the holder shall not be allowed to exploit them except other licensees are given the opportunity to exploit or access them."
This one was from a blog:
http://naijablog.blogspot.com[....]ormation-flows-in-nigeria.html
As one commentator has pointed out, DSTV/Multichoice have only themselves to blame for the decision - access to the footie is one of the major reasons why people who can afford it fork out N9000 per month at present (around 35 UK pounds).
Finally: ThisDay
http://allafrica.com/stories/200608071124.html
"You will not believe it that indigenous Direct-to-Home satellite companies that were in operation have all gone under incurring huge loses as a result of their inability to get good content that will attract customers. Contents and channels that could have helped them remain in business have been exclusively bought or warehoused by a South African company on behalf of Nigeria. This is ridiculous.
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Senisho Joined: Nov 02, 2005 Posts: 53 From: Lagos, Nigeria PM |
Hey guys, long tym. Pls guys I need sum1(any1) 2 assist me in setting up a nokia N73 as a modem. Already installed d software, but don't know how & where 2 put vactive's settings on d pc(don't have any experience). |
mamba Joined: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 138 From: 9ja PM |
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On 2006-08-18 20:25:47, Senisho wrote:
Hey guys, long tym. Pls guys I need sum1(any1) 2 assist me in setting up a nokia N73 as a modem. Already installed d software, but don't know how & where 2 put vactive's settings on d pc(don't have any experience).
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Why not try reading the manual..
BrTW, by how much did that machine set u back?
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brix25 Joined: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Cape Town, South Africa PM, WWW
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@coola: From my understanding what will now happen is that Nigeria will be a seperate entity when it comes to rights...the snag though is that this new regulation will simply mean that DStv will beat all their competition in Nigeria when it comes time for a new deal. Besides, Nigerians do not own rights to the EPL...the English own these rights and they won't sell them for anything less then the premium price.
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