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moogoo
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Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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Geoffxx
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On 2013-09-08 21:57:47, vapotrini wrote:
I really don't know why Sony just can't seem to get their screen's 100% right. Most reviewers are saying the screen is good, but not quite as good as the One. On top of that, why does a phone with a 3000 mah battery and 5 inch screen only offer 6.5 hours of video play back? Samsung with their 5.65 inch screen and 3200 mah battery are claiming nearly 15 hours of video play back. That disparity is ridiculous! They're clearly doing something wrong.
1:25 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsmYSXfncQ
1:55 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBFMVPNpoHc
I'm not sure that any reviewer has actually tested a full 100% complete production model of this phone and even when it's available from next week it still won't have the final production release of the Firmware, so with that in mind it might be a good idea for us and reviewers alike to wait until they actually have an official fully released handset in their possession before making any judgement calls on anything - all we can comment on is what we have seen so far and based on that alone I pre-ordered a Z1 - my recent history XZ and XZU
So far I can't think of one single thing I'm not liking about the Z1 - for me Sony have really upped their game and left the competition scratching their heads about how they can possibly compete, yes the G2 has reportedly got a good screen and good hardware and a reasonable camera (not better) but I can name a lot of things it doesn't have
Anyway lets wait a couple of weeks and see some official reviews of production devices and see were we're at
and 15 hours of video playback is complete hogwash - I say that with great confidence
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CrownedAkuma
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THE NEVERENDING SCREEN DEBATE
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Shotokan81
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On 2013-09-08 19:45:37, Geoffxx wrote:
are you serious, the Z1 makes the S4 look like a 12 month old device never mind 2 month, nothing will come close to the Z1 until 2014 and even then it will likely be another Sony - there is no other device on the market that matches the Z1 in every respect - yes some have the S800 and 330 hardware but as a whole package it in unequalled
Tell me I'm wrong and why
I agree at the moment it looks good.
But their should be a refresh of the GS4 sooner or later.
The built quality will be Sony advantage IMO.
Sony main issue will be the iphone 5S at docomo, really a bad news for their number 1 market.
There is a serious issue that could end up like a scenario similar to panasonic and NEC.
I see a lot of japanese forums and the amount of people saying will go for iphone is 10 to 1.
And do not underestimate Fujitsu and Sharp new models.
As they will benefit from the Docomo discounts, it could be serious competition for the Z1 in Japan, on the remaining market share the iphone will not take at docomo.
It will not be an easy launch.
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MNX1024
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Since China is shipping tomorrow, anyone have an idea what's the status for the Z1 in Hong Kong?
On 2013-09-08 07:00:42, McKinley wrote:
On 2013-09-08 06:59:31, moogoo wrote:
@mcKinley - i didn't quite understand what you said. are you saying your slowed down speed is 4mbitish after going over the high speed "cap"?
Ok I will break it down in this way
Regular speed 4Mbit in 3G+ mode
slowed speed 0.3Mbit with ancient 2G
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2013-09-08 06:01 ]
That seriously depends on the market you're in and if your phone supports PCS or not. Other factors that also comes in play such as peak hours and so forth.
@Moogoo You can't really rely on what people tell you in terms of speed if they're not in your market. I mention before, I get an average of 15/10Mbps during peak hours and upward of 20/15Mbps during non peak hours. The speed I mention before are for LTE, for HSPA+, just subtract about 3Mbps off those numbers. Since I have no experience with non unlimited plan, can't really tell you what the speed is after being throttled. Though the good thing about T-Mobile's unlimited plan is, it's truly unlimited! I have the unlimited plan and I don't get throttle at all even after using an upward of 40+ GB. This really boils down to, you have to try it out to see if you like it or not. |
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On 2013-09-09 00:22:39, Shotokan81 wrote:
On 2013-09-08 19:45:37, Geoffxx wrote:
are you serious, the Z1 makes the S4 look like a 12 month old device never mind 2 month, nothing will come close to the Z1 until 2014 and even then it will likely be another Sony - there is no other device on the market that matches the Z1 in every respect - yes some have the S800 and 330 hardware but as a whole package it in unequalled
Tell me I'm wrong and why
I agree at the moment it looks good.
But their should be a refresh of the GS4 sooner or later.
The built quality will be Sony advantage IMO.
Sony main issue will be the iphone 5S at docomo, really a bad news for their number 1 market.
There is a serious issue that could end up like a scenario similar to panasonic and NEC.
I see a lot of japanese forums and the amount of people saying will go for iphone is 10 to 1.
And do not underestimate Fujitsu and Sharp new models.
As they will benefit from the Docomo discounts, it could be serious competition for the Z1 in Japan, on the remaining market share the iphone will not take at docomo.
It will not be an easy launch.
perhaps that's why sony pushes out Z1 so fast |
Tizzo
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For all the guys worried about the screen BenQ has a nice little video showing the advantages of VA panels over IPS panels.
ENJOY  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpuFvhT8Hw
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Away
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So you're telling me the Japanese got the Z we dreamt for (Infra red and no screen lottery) whilst dreaming about the next iPHONE???
@MNX1024
You don't get throttled after 40gb? One day they'll assassinate you instead...
On topic - let's just hope there's no screen lottery, and if there is, then every reviewer out there gets the good one, and also every good person in the world. |
Geoffxx
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On 2013-09-09 00:22:39, Shotokan81 wrote:
On 2013-09-08 19:45:37, Geoffxx wrote:
are you serious, the Z1 makes the S4 look like a 12 month old device never mind 2 month, nothing will come close to the Z1 until 2014 and even then it will likely be another Sony - there is no other device on the market that matches the Z1 in every respect - yes some have the S800 and 330 hardware but as a whole package it in unequalled
Tell me I'm wrong and why
I agree at the moment it looks good.
But their should be a refresh of the GS4 sooner or later.
The built quality will be Sony advantage IMO.
Sony main issue will be the iphone 5S at docomo, really a bad news for their number 1 market.
There is a serious issue that could end up like a scenario similar to panasonic and NEC.
I see a lot of japanese forums and the amount of people saying will go for iphone is 10 to 1.
And do not underestimate Fujitsu and Sharp new models.
As they will benefit from the Docomo discounts, it could be serious competition for the Z1 in Japan, on the remaining market share the iphone will not take at docomo.
It will not be an easy launch.
weird thing is that there has been a shift the last 12 months or so people moving away iphone to Android, the Japanese will soon realise that going down the Apple route with it's brand specific closed environment will be too much to handle, I don't believe for one minute that Japan is going to desert the home brands for some American pipe dream, it would be like selling a Honda and buying a Harley - not going to happen
Android has something like 80% share of the global market and is growing by the week
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2[....]s-android-seizes-market-share/
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auchengyu
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On 2013-09-08 16:53:01, randomuser wrote:
There is no cust cutting and nor is there any viewing angle problem. Don't let some bad protos fool you people. For Z1 Sony was considering multiple panels including the same panel from Z/ZL. Which is why there is a lot of variation as all those protos must have made it to IFA show floor.
According to what I hear, Sony has chosen a VA panel which actually costs MORE than the Z Ultra panel. So there you go, Sony hasn't cut costs even for the display.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-09-08 15:53 ]
I have tested the unit 2 days ago at Sony Style Store Shanghai, in all 3 colors.
And again, have not seen any angle problem OR screen problem.
Please guys, dont just judge from videos or photos from the internet. You have to see it with your own eyes, in order to judge. I have not seen any problems like you saw on those so called "angle tests" videos and photos. And its not even the RETAIL version. You should go to sony store first and check it yourself guys, believe ur your own eyes and your own judgement, instead of videos around the internet, which have hundreds of factors influencing the real thing like light, noise, bla bla bla, you have to keep all these in mind.
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I don't know if this has been posted yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8iVg7uFEVU
In my opinion, its video quality is in a league of its own in the Android sphere, with superb image stabilizer and unaparalleled metering.
Yes I know it's too early to claim such a thing as the best, but if someone can, it's Sony.
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Good to see that there's no wobbling on video. |
AbhiD999
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I can't believe some people are calling LG g2 a level on competition for XPERIA Z1!!!
IMO z1 wipes out the floor with g2.
1.Screen - Head on z1 would easily beat the crap out of g2 with it's really eye popping colors + really good contrast levels and more than sufficient viewing angles only with some degradation at extreme(that is still debatable, we don't know how good retail screens would be)
2. Camera - z1's camera matches 1020's performance in most cases even with this early firmware. So the 13mpx exmor r of g2 is nothing in front of z1!!!
As far as optical stabilization is concerned, nobody knows what kind of(physical or digital) z1 has! Stupid Sony never talks about many important and important features. It has SteadyShot which is doing great job judging from above video.
3. Processing power and gpu in both are same! It's a tie here !
4. As far as designs are concerned z1 wins hands down. Such a masterpiece to look at ! Blended with the most premium of materials out there it's such a beautiful device to look at. Some might bring in small bezels to site g2 a better device but the truth is that whoever cares about overall size in segment of 5" phones is an idiot! He/she should better go with phones with screen of 4.3" or 4.6". (and for those Sony is bringing in z1 mini).
Also bezelless devices only make handling of a big phone difficult with accidental presses and poor horizontal viewing experience!
So z1 wins here too !
5. Software updates - Simply no match between Sony and LG. Sony wins hands down !
6. Xperia z1 is ip55/ 58 certified with WATER PROOF AND DUST PROOF !!! G2 is zero here too !
So this is end result - Xperia Z1 is the phone to beat until march 14 when new Z2 will be unveiled !!! |
Latios147
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On 2013-09-09 00:22:39, Shotokan81 wrote:
I agree at the moment it looks good.
But their should be a refresh of the GS4 sooner or later.
The built quality will be Sony advantage IMO.
Sony main issue will be the iphone 5S at docomo, really a bad news for their number 1 market.
There is a serious issue that could end up like a scenario similar to panasonic and NEC.
I see a lot of japanese forums and the amount of people saying will go for iphone is 10 to 1.
And do not underestimate Fujitsu and Sharp new models.
As they will benefit from the Docomo discounts, it could be serious competition for the Z1 in Japan, on the remaining market share the iphone will not take at docomo.
It will not be an easy launch.
I will be considering between the F-01F and the SO-01F. They have almost the same specs except Fujitsu is cramming 64GB ROM inside. |
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After this video, I seriously hope Sony are promoting its insane image stabilization, I mean just watch that part when he walks. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iywbzj5oq8
Lossless zoom crap is unimpressive though 
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