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l337h1um
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Posted: 2008-11-03 03:37
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Sorry WhyBe, I wasn't finished. I have a nasty habit of posting stuff I'm not finished with and editing it two minutes later.
WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-11-03 03:43
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^^ Me too

I just read the entire Wiki article. They eventually stated the point I was making. My response was based just on the first line you had quoted.

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Posted: 2008-11-03 05:46
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anyone got a link to themes ?
doesn't seem to be many WVGA themes, cheers
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Posted: 2008-11-03 07:21
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On 2008-11-01 01:05:02, Tigershark42 wrote:
Ive seen extreme contrasts with what people think of WinMo handsets. The one who doesnt bother to see what it can really do and just uses it as it comes, he says its slow, dated, boring etc etc etc. The one who downloads new software, takes an interest and knows what he is doing says it is brilliant and it can do anything he wants. So it just depends what you're looking for. If its not the latter, then its not WinMo you want.


Spot on.


On 2008-11-01 03:33:45, F430 wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ytzjazmmwyi/TF3D_HD.CAB

for tochflo 3D


Legend


On 2008-11-01 13:40:59, the_mont wrote:

I'm also on Vodafone, and I've already had a conversation with Sony Ericsson and Vodafone about the Wi-Fi issue. Wi-Fi does not work, even though you can connect to it, it won't use that connection. Both sets of developers are working to find a solution, so you can bear with it, or move networks where phones are unbranded if it's important to you.

Personally I'm not too bothered as the non-Wi Fi connection is fast enough for me at the moment.

In short - Vodafone reprogrammed and made a mess of it, BTW if anyone has the new C905, the same problem exists.


f%&$ me, they are completely useless!!! In their eagerness to ensure you never accidently manage to NOT USE VODAFONE when accessing the net, they actually kill of wifi altogether! Not unlike Vodafone to consider their right to make money off you stronger then your right to get the product you asked for.
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Posted: 2008-11-03 08:22
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Hi All.
Can you use the X1 without a simcard as is possible with most Winmob. phones?
Thanks in advance!
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On 2008-11-03 02:29:51, WhyBe wrote:
@Dogmann:
I mix music professionally. I won't argue with you.


I'm sorry, I appreciate you mix music professionally, but others who do the same tell a different story. So is your version of the truth the only one?

I am not a professional music person, so my opinion probably doesn't count, but I have worked and talked with those in your diverse profession. If you're version of the truth is such, it would appear that most high-end Amp, CD and speaker makers do not share your sentiment. For example NAID, provides a volume control and that's it.

I don't want to start an argument, and I'm not really interested in a discussion, as it totally subjective.

One thing is true though - not all music players are equal, and as Marc said the most important thing is a good pair of headphones and music recorded at a decent bit-rate to ensure the quality of sound.

That's my 2pence worth, and lets just get along

Chris


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On 2008-11-03 08:22:46, Merlyn101 wrote:
Hi All.
Can you use the X1 without a simcard as is possible with most Winmob. phones?
Thanks in advance!



Yep, certainly can. I downloaded all my contacts and set it up, without the sim.


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True.

As whybe put it, EQ is important when mixing audio. It's part of the artistic process and also part of the process of ensuring the audio sounds the way the artist meant it.

However, once it is mixed, then the only need for EQ is to compensate for inadequate playback equipment, adjust for poor listening environments, or as in radio to appeal to particular type of listener.

Sound personality in radio, like advertising, is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. In pop stations for example this will be one kind of EQ setting, in Classical it will be another. Also, radio station technocrats will assume that most people will listen to their station in a particular kind of poor listening environment and will adjust EQ to ensure their station still sounds good even in these poor listening environments (busy cafes, noisy cars etc). This involves a massive trade off in listening fidelity in quiet, sound isolated listening environments (for example in-ear headphones).

When we are listening through decent in-ear headphones on adequate quality playback devices it shouldn't be necessary to adjust EQ too much.

However that said it doesn't mean you won't one day be blasting your tunes from your W910 over A2DP to a crappy stereo and decide to use the inbuilt EQ to rectify the situation somewhat

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On 2008-11-03 09:23:51, max_wedge wrote:
True.

As whybe put it, EQ is important when mixing audio. It's part of the artistic process and also part of the process of ensuring the audio sounds the way the artist meant it.



So basically we are all right in different ways, see we can all just get along

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Posted: 2008-11-03 10:46
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I have installed tochflo 3D. While installing my phone rang. It seems to have worked but it does crsh a lot. Come to think if it coreplayer has frozen a few times and so has the calls menu. Opera also crashes regularly.

Am I in need of a firmware update or something or have I installed to much to the phone or something?
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Posted: 2008-11-03 11:05
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Hi all,

Well it does indeed seem as most of us have the same opinion as of course an artist and producer are tweaking the sound to how they wish it to be whilst in a recording studio.

My argument was that Music is not mixed with the idea that the end user should then use EQ to make it sound right, as this i totally disagree with and it seems so does the_mont and Max. In as much that using EQ on most devices as there are always exceptions to any rules is trying to make up for the inadequacies of the hardware that the Music is being played on.

Really the best results on decent hardware with well encoded Music and decent ear/head phones is not to have to use EQ. As really boosting any single frequency or a combination of frequencies will not give the best soundstage.

For me i look for a well balanced sound stage with a rich warm sound and where the individual instruments can be heard and appreciated. Just being very loud or Bass heavy doesn't equate to being good quality well not for me it doesn't.

But lets leave this with us agreeing to diagree as it has been discussed numerous times before in threads dedicated to the subject and has little to do with the X1.

Other than the X1 does not have an EQ nor IMO does it need one as Music encoded @256kbps AAC sounds very good indeed using a good set of ear phones in my case Shure EC2g's. As after moving the slider up on both the device and phone volume controls it was also loud enough to.

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Posted: 2008-11-03 11:15
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Took another indoor photo with the exposure down -1.5.


I must say i am satisfied with the result of the camera, just need some tweeking..

The time between you press the button until the photo is taken is to long thou.
You can speed it up a little bit by pressing halfway on the button and take focus first.

Maby it futher firmware they make it a bit faster..

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On 2008-11-03 10:46:16, DexterMorgan wrote:
I have installed tochflo 3D. While installing my phone rang. It seems to have worked but it does crsh a lot. Come to think if it coreplayer has frozen a few times and so has the calls menu. Opera also crashes regularly.

Am I in need of a firmware update or something or have I installed to much to the phone or something?



Hi there,

My phone has only crashed twice once before I installed anything (so I put that down to Windows) and once after I've installed TouchFlow.

Based on my general IT knowledge (I am an IT consultant) but limited knowledge of Windows Mobile, I cannot say if TouchFlow was responsible for my 2nd crash. However I do not have many other programs installed and I use the player supplied with TouchFlow as it provides a good sound equal (if not better) to that of the internal player.

Most O/S Windows or otherwise (I work with Unix O/S FYI) require a certain amount of free memory to swap things in and out, for normal use. If you have a number of large programs running, obviously memory & battery will suffer. When in the "today screen" shutdown any programs that you are not using, as that might help.

How much free memory do you have on your X1 (not including the memory card)?

What I do, is install all music/data files, etc. on my external SDHC card, and my free memory currently is:

Storage: 95.23Mb
Program: 126Mb

Others have mentioned that SPB Panel on the SE website might be better than TouchFlow, but I can only test one Shell at a time .

If I experience your problems or have more crashes, I'll report back here. I don't work for TouchFlow, so I have no reason to plug it. If it falls to live up to expectations I will kick it into touch, but so far my experience (as reported on an early page) has been a positive one.

Obviously if freeing up memory doesn't work for you, I would uninstall it and try the SPB shell.

Chris

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@Dogmann, the_mont & max:
Yes, this could be a long topic in and of itself

But, there is a reason tone controls are provided on any decent consumer playback system. As I said before, they are to be used as seasoning by the listener. You could very well listen with no EQ on a decent pair of headsets. But, to improve things, learn how to tweak an EQ with your favorite music and you'll be pleasantly surprised to hear very satisfactory improvements to the sound.

Max, you were pretty much in line with what I was saying.
However, once it is mixed, then the only need for EQ is to compensate for inadequate playback equipment, adjust for poor listening environments, or as in radio to appeal to particular type of listener.

For this statement however, I must add that what I have bolded is the case 99.9% of the time

If you Google something like "loudness war", you will read that many artists nowadays actually hate the way their finished product sounds because of certain processing insisted upon by the record companies.

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On 2008-11-03 12:00:19, WhyBe wrote:
@Dogmann, the_mont & max:
Yes, this could be a long topic in and of itself

But, there is a reason tone controls are provided on any decent consumer playback system.



Ok, we're all "sort of pointing in the same direction, using different paths", however your statement above still does not hold true of all "better" than decent hi-fi makers.

Actually I'd go as far to say that all top Amp makers (used to work in a hi-fi shop) do not have "any" tone controls", so are they wrong?

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