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Supa_Fly
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Posted: 2008-11-02 22:38
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Screw TouchFlo 3D.

Check out the SBP Shell on 's site. This is incredible! Navigate to anywhere on the phone without looking at Windows Mobile horrible UI.

OK now I'm interested in what the Xperia X1 has got to offer. Still would be stoked at SE's rendition of a Symbian Foundation TouchUI device though.

* How good is the 3.2MP Quality pics - and no fanboy bull of wool that dude pulled over our eyes with the K850i please. Is the pics better than all the previous or current SE A2 phones?

* what is the video recording resolution; QVGA or VGA and at what speeds 15/24/30fps?

I must say that the form factor design - curved slide has the Nokia E90 beat in terms of size - but how slippery is that keyboard for rapid typing on??

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Posted: 2008-11-02 22:48
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Here's nice review from pocketnow.com:

http://www.pocketnow.com/inde[....]ortal_detail&t=reviews&id=1107

and nice comparison pics (also from pocketnow.com):





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On 2008-11-02 21:07:40, Krzysiecw wrote:
I`m afraid that only HTC made it for now in their touch flo ... In next WM 7 this will be avaliable ...


I think the finger touch scrolling is already embedded in WM 6.1. in the Xperia, you can use your finger to scroll all the programs, the media and some other places including the web browser.
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On 2008-11-02 19:08:44, McKinley wrote:

On 2008-11-02 15:31:40, Tigershark42 wrote:
Here are some questions for X1 owners: when playing music with the X1, can you go to another panel or any other part of the phone and continue listening?


No not with the including media player.
The music stops immediately when you press the panel button and only continues until you select the media panel.



Actually the music still plays - when using the Touchflow player .

It also works through the Windows Media Player, without problems (don't use it but just tested it).

Obviously incoming calls/text interrupt music, but it will restart playing when the call is ended.

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Posted: 2008-11-02 23:49
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To Chris

Does tha Touchflow Player has an equalizer?

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Posted: 2008-11-03 00:07
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I'm interested in seeing photo's the 3.2mp camera has taken. If anyone can help with any links or upload some then that would be greatly appreciated.

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On 2008-11-02 23:49:38, d-southwest wrote:
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Does tha Touchflow Player has an equalizer?

Peace and thanks


No fraid not - I don't agree with them personally. Music is extensively mixed by professional when the original recordings are made, so why change it?

BTW - Volume level is very good. There is a bass boost of sorts, called "Audio Booster".

Chris


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On 2008-11-03 00:32:24, the_mont wrote:

On 2008-11-02 23:49:38, d-southwest wrote:
To Chris

Does tha Touchflow Player has an equalizer?

Peace and thanks


No fraid not - I don't agree with them personally. Music is extensively mixed by professional when the original recordings are made, so why change it?

BTW - Volume level is very good. There is a bass boost of sorts, called "Audio Booster".

Chris

@the_mont:
Actually, professionals mix music "flat", meaning it is mixed full well knowing listeners are going to manipulate it with their equalizers or tone controls (Bass and Treble). Mixing flat ensures that their recording will sound best on the broadest range of playback systems (from iPods to Big stereo systems to car stereos). Listening to music with no equalization is like eating food with no seasoning...you can do it, but most people like to personalize it to their taste. I believe D-Southwest wants to add tons of bass (like me ). And no recording is going to give that sound without using an equalizer.

@D-Southwest:
Here are some applications listed on Handango that feature equalizers:
LCG Jukebox
Pocket Player
VITO Sound Explorer

I'm sure there are plenty others.
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Posted: 2008-11-03 02:09
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Is the touchscreen on this capacitive or resistive and is the touchscreen as responsive/fluid as the one on the iPhone and G1?

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@WhyBe

I really don't know where you have gotten this idea from about Music being mixed flat and you are meant to use EQ as basically that's the biggest load of BS i've read for a long time.

Whilst we may all have slightly different preferences of how we like our Music to sound EQ's in most devices are there to help hide the hardwares deficiencies and boost the frequencies they are incapable of reproducing clearly.

The other time when EQ's are necessary is when people encode their music at low bit rates and their isn't sufficient information to be decoded and give good results.

Recording Artists and Producers most certainly do not spend hours and huge amounts of money mixing their Music flat for the user to then use EQ on. So i totally agree with what the_mont has said as that is right and how it is.

I listen to all my Music @256 AAC and never use any EQ settings and that is how the Music sounds best as the Artist and Producer wanted it to sound. Well encoded Music and a good set of Head/ear phones is far more important then some pseudo performance improving EQ that tries to improve the sound artificially.

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@Dogmann:
I mix music professionally. I won't argue with you.
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@WhyBe

OK so please explain why if as you claim Music is mixed flat that different artist's use different producers to have different sounds and all these producers get paid large fees and or points for there work then? If after all you claim Music is mixed flat and is left for the user to adjust via EQ then how come records all sound exactly the same when played by different Radio stations all across the world? or do they all just manage to choose the same EQ settings and this happens by magic then?

I have been around people in the Music industry for many years when i was younger and everything from people working in publishing through to artists i have also spent plenty of time in recording studios to whilst final mixes take place. Not once have i ever come across anyone doing a final mix and making it flat for the user to use EQ on to get the desired sound.

So if you are working in the Music industry and really believe that artists and producers mix Music flat for people to then use EQ to get the best sound well I'm stunned and would love to know just what you do?unless of course your Dr Dre!!!

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On 2008-11-03 02:55:53, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe

OK so please explain why if as you claim Music is mixed flat that different artist's use different producers to have different sounds and all these producers get paid large fees and or points for there work then? If after all you claim Music is mixed flat and is left for the user to adjust via EQ then how come records all sound exactly the same when played by different Radio stations all across the world? or do they all just manage to choose the same EQ settings and this happens by magic then?

I have been around people in the Music industry for many years when i was younger and everything from people working in publishing through to artists i have also spent plenty of time in recording studios to whilst final mixes take place. Not once have i ever come across anyone doing a final mix and making it flat for the user to use EQ on to get the desired sound.

So if you are working in the Music industry and really believe that artists and producers mix Music flat for people to then use EQ to get the best sound well I'm stunned and would love to know just what you do?unless of course your Dr Dre!!!

Flat means an even frequency response across the audio spectrum (from 20Hz to 20000Hz). If you were to look at a "flat" mix on a spectrum analyzer, you would see a relatively flat line going across (not completely flat but relatively). This ensures proper Signal to Noise ratio and RMS levels on the recording medium. It also allows cheap consumer equipment (stuff most people listen to music on) to faithfully reproduce the mix. In the professional world "flat" is not a bad word.

The reason you think all radio stations sound the same is because your ears are not trained Different radio stations sound differently to me. I can probably tell you what type of EQ curve each station is using just by listening. If you listen closely to two stations playing the same song, and switch back and forth, you would hear that they actually sound different. One may sound warmer or clearer than the other (assuming clear reception).

There is the recording , the mixing, the mastering and the playback stages. All of these stages use EQ. EQ is used to get the best sound for THAT particular stage in the process.

I'm trying to keep it simple. This could get really technical and lengthy.
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@Doggman,
WhyBe is right. You want everything as flat as possible. This gives the truest reproduction of the original source.


Wikipedia wrote:
The goal of equalization is to correct, or make equal, the frequency response of a signal

...

Ideally, a sound system would produce a flat frequency response. The frequency response of a room is examined with a Spectrum analyzer and usually a graphic equalizer, with matching frequency bands, is used to compensate for the room acoustics. This is standard practice for sound recording studios, live sound reinforcement systems and some High fidelity sound systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization

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On 2008-11-03 03:30:27, l337h1um wrote:

Wikipedia wrote:
The goal of equalization is to correct, or make equal, the frequency response of a signal.



That's correct but misleading because it only states one use of an EQ. EQ's have many uses. On the professional side it is also used to shape the tonality of a sound...making the sound incorrect, so to speak! This (along with other tools) is what gives different sounds and instruments their "personality".

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