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Muhammad-Oli
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Yeah that would be a lot better. I'd even use it on my prepay plan at that price. 
Hopefully you get a reply. Vodafone still haven't replied to my email. I'm thinking I'll have to email them again soon! 
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carkitter
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Yeah, thats the point, data that is usable. Trouble is, they admitted recently that part of thier high data pricing was to avoid thier network being swamped by demand. Things have improved though and customers will no longer stand for pricing like we currently have with 2 more GSM networks on the way.
As it was just a suggestion I did not request a reply. I wasn't impressed with the tone of the last reply anyway... 
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Muhammad-Oli
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The tone of their last reply???
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frankthetank
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The tone used by any large corporate body towards the requests of a single customer lol
The New Zealand public still has a long way to go from the "We won't use anything but Telecom because they have always been our provider" mentality, which makes the prospect of 2 new cellular networks almost laughable...
See I was of the impression that new legislation was to be introduced to cut the inter-network charges for calls and data sharing which is crippling the development of the kind of plans you are talking about (Already commonplace in many of our neighbour's networks) and make possible (Affordably) national roaming free of landlines and hardwired broadband connections...
I guess we'll have to wait for the government to harden up...?
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JiSm
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I just had a look on the Voda site. Am I right in saying that Voda still dont offer a sim only pay monthly connection? In there sense that there is no contract term? I mean, how can you go on a contract when you provide your own phone? Useless insecure b*stards. Im gonna have to resort to extortionate Prepay rates when I get back? Might have to get a parttime job there just to get a staff tariff.
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carkitter
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On 2008-06-23 22:36:31, JiSm wrote:
I just had a look on the Voda site. Am I right in saying that Voda still don't offer a SIM only pay monthly connection? In the sense that there is no contract term? I mean, how can you go on a contract when you provide your own phone?
Errr... no, thats incorrect.
Both Motormouth and You Choose can be had with out a fixed term. They'll try to discourage you from joining thier old Motormouth plan but just ignore that if it's what you want. You Choose base plans are not that cheap but adding Bestmates gives you unlimited Voice/Video calling and Txt/PXT which does represent good value. If you opt for a 12/24/36 month term, Vodafone will offer you either a discount on a handset or extra minutes on your base plan.
I don't think much of the 24 month Talker and Txter plans but the Mega plan is very good (my wife is on it) and only has a 12 month term.
You could sign up to a iPhone 3G plan, keep the plan and sell the iPhone which on TradeMe would fetch a small fortune and offset the (probably 2yr) fixed term. 
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Muhammad-Oli
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I just realised why Christchurch's service seems so crap compared to what you're getting up in Auckland:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/hom[....]roadband/red-network/index.jsp
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carkitter
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Thats thier landline network. It's upgraded to 24Mbps via ADSL2+ thanks to Local Loop Unbundling. Telecom and Orcon also supply ADSL2+ to some areas in Auckland. Northland will be getting a 1Gbps Pure Fibre Optic based network in the near future.
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Muhammad-Oli
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Well it just goes to show what Vodafone considers to be important. They haven't even started rolling that out in other cities yet. Obviously Auckland is getting all the attention, and I bet that goes for other products than their landline service.
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carkitter
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"Vodafone chief executive Russell Stanners said the company had already unbundled over half of Auckland's exchanges, and would have completed all 41 by the end of the October.
The network, expected to run at a maximum download pace of 24Mbps, would then be extended outside Auckland.
"Based on the market today, we'd look at Hamilton, Tauranga, Palmerston North, Rotorua and Taupo, and of course Wellington," he said.
Christchurch and Dunedin would come later."
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JiSm
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I cant beleive how crap the plans are. After being away for a few years and working in the industry here you really see how ripped off Kiwis are by Telecom and Voda. E.g I can get a no contract sim here for £25 (Approx $65NZ) per month, get 700 anytime any network minutes and unlimited anytime any network texts, plus free evening and weekend internet. It will be expensive for me when I get back as I am so used to talkin on my mobile and txtn ALL THE TIME - coz I can here! Such a shame really. If they lowered their rates a bit - people would use their phone more and they would eventually be able to re-structure their plans and make a mint on peoples new habit of using the phone so much. Still, NZ is far more technologically advanced than Europe with Telco stuff but its a shame we have to pay 5X the price for it.
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Muhammad-Oli
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@carkitter: I don't know whether you meant to but you kind of confirmed my point there. Us South Islanders seem like an afterthought to the big Auckland-run companies.
@JiSm: I agree, and I think most people will. The plans are crap. I was talking to my mate today who is on a $35 a month plan, but he gets so little in the way of anything that its been costing him over $70 a month for the last several bills. Hes a student too, so hes not exactly rich.
I actually paid my way out of my plan just over a year ago because I found that I didn't need calls much - all I needed was texts and Vodafone offered nothing good. I realised that being on Prepay was actually heaps cheaper and now I pay $16 a month, plus maybe $2-3 for a couple of calls and maybe a few dollars of texts to Telecom phones when I need to. This way I get 2000 texts, Vodafone to Vodafone (TXT 2000 which costs $10), and I can text and call my girlfriend all I like (using Bestmate which costs $6).
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JiSm
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Its kinda strange really. When I worked for Telecom - The whole "future plan" was to ditch landline (not completely) but have everyone run purely off mobiles - for internet and voice etc. Maybe it was a plan based on CDMA as it really cost them sweet FA to run compared to GSM and the DATA speeds were absolutely incredible, plus there would be no "Unbundling" option for the CDMA network and they could dominate the country - Just like they did with the Landline originally. I wonder if their decision to go GSM has put a spanner in the works and possibly stopped any progression to a truely wireless country? - Well, in a cost-effective sense anyways. I remember seeing the presentation containing a family and ther wireless world. After that I was thinking "Why the hell do we still have landlines now then?" But yea, I might have to talk to some Telecom buddies and find out about that again.
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Muhammad-Oli
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Yeah I think I remember seeing some ads about that. Happy rich families with their expensive wireless tech. 
I think it may have been delayed more by New Zealanders and their unwillingness to accept newer mobile technology. I believe the average NZ mobile phone user just doesn't give a crap about data speeds or wireless whatever. They just want a phone that can text, take poor quality snaps and call there mum for a lift when they're out late. 
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Muhammad-Oli
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K770i now available in Black on Vodafone, at the normal price of $399.
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