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jontyf
Joined: Apr 29, 2004
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Hmmmmmmmmm 2...
Goodness me that was a lot of info!
5 - 6 units a month? and esato only gets 1 or 2, im suprised |
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bart
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many another company had build a very good looking phone (like the razer) but it could be that the original prototype came from SE.
who knows
With Ericsson and Nokia gone: we must keep their spirits alive and buy JOLLA or YOTA |
MurtazinEldar
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Some examples... Nokia 6800 and all models in this line come from Motorola developers team, they were hired by Nokia and use old design from Moto
V3 is internal development.
We arent talking about design, mostly intelligence connected with set of features, launch dates, functionality, new technologies. If you receiving info that SE planing to launch model with 128[128 screen, 12 Mb of memory, covers, IrDA etc then you mostly change set of features for you own model. Remember what pool of memory was anounced firstly for C65? Interesting that the same SE model by that time was with 3 Mb internal memory, but they changed pool to 12 Mb (and at the same time Siemens changed it too). Strange, isnt it? Officialy they not working toghether on that models, just trying to build the same models for the same target groups... |
thanasis
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
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Very interesting info Eldar!
Ofcourse we all know about the famous Maximilian Schunke, Sony Ericsson's chief legal advisor and his methods...
What surprises me is that if Nokia announced the 6230 in October 2003 then SE must have known about its features in the summer of 2003, yet they still did not add memory card slot for the k700 which was presented in March 2004 almost 9 months later!!
So much for business inteligence from SE's part... |
MurtazinEldar
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For SE the main problem is plants, they couldnt produce enough handsets, Nokia hasnt such problem. From this point of view they postponed Clara, actually it could be on market in this September |
thanasis
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Do you see this problem with plants changing any time soon? It is as if they are unable to compete..
sorry for the offtopic by the way guys! |
vee
Joined: Jun 22, 2004
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maybe they should ask Nokia to produce phones for them  ... yes this September a big killer... In April, who knows what competition has ??? |
BobaFett
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@eldar where do u get your infos from?
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Yazan24
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But its even photoshopped badly look at the first phone
on its left side, u cant see where the white is supposed to be, because aaccording to the base (white) it should continue upwards which it doesnt
-Kamikaze-
Esato- The first Biased Sony Ericsson Forums
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bart
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SE just took more controle over the ericsson plant in china, now its named the SE plant...
they also invested in a new plant in brazile for the T230 and previus models, so thats going to be the T290 ( a low end phone to boost the sales number and stabelize the marketshare).
Arima the Taiwanees company that makes the T100/T105/Z200 and variants is also working for them.
Z200 still in production. the J200 is also made by Arima and will be on the markets soon (Asia first). later on will see the K300. according to rumours Arima will produce 2mil to 2.5mil of those a Q.
and i'm sure there working on a Z200 succesor.
so we'll see increase in the quantity of phones made by SE.
however it looks like they are going to boost the quantity of low end phones, and more phones for china/japan.
i know that SE produces only 250 000 Pxxx phones a Q
but i would like to know how many Z1010 and V800 are produced a Q, anybody got any info on that?
for this Q i would prodict that SE's sales won't be that spectaculary, although the T610 is selling in massive numbers (again), S700 dropped alot in price, T230 is still doing well, and K500 is starting to be more in the spotlights. thats my view on europe
for america i don't expect there share to rize, there's to much competion from siemens and samsung. and ofcourse americans love themselfs more and more, so moto will be doing very good aswell.
Asia is hard to prodict, whats in today is out tomorow, fashion and low priced phones mean more then performence and value for money.
japan and china will be a more stable market for SE i think.
anybody got any info on the premini sales? cause it would be strange if that was a hot item. but we all know how japanees are, once they like something it sales in massive numbers.
anybody else who wants to give his forcast?
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MurtazinEldar
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which info exactly?sources are different but im very close to all vendors  ))
About plants.Yes, it will be a better year for SE in terms of quantity, but mainly growth will be for low end, odm models.Arima make several models for se, but couldnt produce as much as SE need. Another bad sign that Arima is working as OEM/ODM partner not only with SE, but also with Siemens and several companies.
SE has a very big shortage for smartphones, and middle range. they couldnt outsourced such models as k700 and higher. on other hand they need to be number first in middle price segment. I bet that in 2 years it will be a very high price for uptodate models, they will be overpriced due to shortage. check situation with k500, se earn big margin, but quantities in first month was really small. now this model is popular and we could see price correction on real level.II |
Jake Blues
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@wapchimp
the following comment is not an opinion on you or your pics
@all
i have never understood why anyone would want to sit down for hours on end and create fake pictures of mobiles.
are thier lives so empty that they get pleasure ftom fooling a few people on an internet forum?
but faking pix of celebrities doing "naughty" things is a different matter altogther....
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BobaFett
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@eldar i ment clara etc u are well informed in mob biz life aswell, thought u are an insider
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jcwhite_uk
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@nature
A lot of these so called fakes have actually turned out to have come from a design students project (I am not infering that the pics in this thread are that). People pick up on these pictures and think that hey could be leaked from the manufacturers when in fact they have been done be an 18 year old design student who is just trying to get a good grade. That is only one reason for "faked" pictures. There are also some very bored people who sit down for hours faking pictures and some very well paid people who design phones for a living only to have their hardwork leaked out of the company. |
BobaFett
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Jh67 has got some nice one on www.jh67.dk
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