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mmsman
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it has ms duo, oh and some say that e100 is better than s60 (if it has e100) so i guess you will have to see it in real to complain about the os.....
and for the one that says se is copying mot v70 desing  sheesh
in that logic they would never had done any other phones than candybar...
if the form factor is the same that ISN'T COPYING
this form factor is the future (along with the clamshell)
just look at japan and you will see that with these screens and features you can't make a normal candybar.....
and they are totally different because s700 uses this form factor because of the usuability and therefore has buttons while v70 was just a fashion concept.....
again i repeat myself if a phone has the same form factor that isn't copying, if all would claim that than there wouldn't be any progress | |
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701
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@mmsman: i was wondering about the same thing.Seems to me it does matter if some NOkia die-hard fans have their brains washed away by the last tide. Helps the rest of us being objective.
We r talking about a crappy 128x128 screen, with a shitty VGA camera with video (yeah, u gotta see a lot of movie on that screen, pal), polyphonic ring tones ( 4 channels as usual, huh?  )..what else? Oh, don't forget the same ol' software, the same cappy plasticky housing ..against THIS NEW phone!
262k screen( 240x320), 1.3 mb camera, expansion card!! GET real and come back from the Candy-Land!
Of course, i have to wait 6 months but it is BETTER quality at the SAME PRICE!
U guys are blind-sided!This is not about companies, this is about quality products...u r amazing.
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Super G
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On 2004-03-09 13:47:00, mmsman wrote:
may i ask what others have that this phone doesn't? i mean i look at the specs and then again at your comment and it doesn't make any sense.....
about the size, sheesh... man what do you have against se?
you guys talk like we se users are awful but in the same time you get on totally se forums and trash se products fo no good reason.....
man i just can't believe it.....
you act like a 7yr old who is in love with nokia, flying finn at least honest and he actually knows something but you well i mean shit.... grow up
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Well, then I'd suggest you read once again the specs, and my comment. And once more after that if you want.
Didn't I say I like Z500? Maybe you missed that. Oh and you missed me saying I like Z600. And P900 (despite a few things I dont like). And T68. And T68i. And T610 (but the looks)....
I can honestly say I'm not impressed by S700. Its form factor is unpractical (I have used the Japanese one, and ok, it's nice at first, but really gets annoying quickly e.g. it doesnt rotate completely), it's big once open. It combines bad points of both candybar and clamshell form factors: the bad point of a candybar is that the screen is exposed to scratches, as opposed to a clamshell. However, a candybar is always small sized even when using the keyboard, while a clamshell is usually big when you want to type something, as it requires to be opened. The screen of a swivel is exposed to scratches, and it's big when open. Oh, but the keyboard is not exposed to scratches, that's a good thing 
And its specs are disappointing for a phone due out in *Q4 (read Christmas time)* this year. Yes 1.3Mpixel is nice and 262k colour is nice to have, but I would have expected more. At least EDGE support to send these big pictures you can take with a 1.3Mpixel...
Phones available today, have EDGE support, FM radio, MP3 player on MMC, etc. |
mmsman
Joined: Dec 14, 2002
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the phone is just awesome i can't imagine anthing that it doesn't have (except for 3g, but i guess that z1010 is good enough for now, at least it's better than any other 3g phone so i shouldn't complain)
the screen is just awesome, fuctionality is great (imagine playing games and listening to music on those sweet buttons), 3g gaming chip- nice , excellent desing with quality materials!, 1.3mp camera!
what else do you want? |
caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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Why SE hasn't update the S700 website?? Only flash prestation is up while u click on the S700 link at bottom right hand side, you got a error link !!
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701
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About EDGE.U guys missing out something very important. EDGE isn't available world wide. There r major providers across europe that don't provide edge cuz there's no demand for it, not many handsets available and one more thing: they thought GPRS would boom the mobile data and it didn't! Why implement a newer faster service when the actual one doesn't make money (or not as much as they thought!).
It might just happen that u guys will pay a lot of money to get an EDGE device and end up in 6 months to use it for wap purposes while paying 5$/mb 
Not only that but the fact that it's a new tech it'll be expensive, based on a subscription ( which cheap-cheapies like the french and the scots won't pay ) and limited in range.
Well, now u can have ur 5 series or 6 series from Nokia that supports EDGE and wipe urs @sses with them...i wanna see u guys paying triple to send a pic , when u and i can use gprs just fine.
PS: I am not interested in the US market cuz i live in Europe.
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nils7
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Great achievement by SE to make a Europe SO505is phone!
The probably looked at the forums! Because alot of people waited for a GSM version of it! Even the OS seems a little bit the same... (without Imode of course). It's a shame it doesn't has Symbian or some other OS.
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Super G
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On 2004-03-09 14:27:00, 701 wrote:
About EDGE.U guys missing out something very important. EDGE isn't available world wide. There r major providers across europe that don't provide edge cuz there's no demand for it, not many handsets available and one more thing: they thought GPRS would boom the mobile data and it didn't! Why implement a newer faster service when the actual one doesn't make money (or not as much as they thought!).
It might just happen that u guys will pay a lot of money to get an EDGE device and end up in 6 months to use it for wap purposes while paying 5$/mb
Not only that but the fact that it's a new tech it'll be expensive, based on a subscription ( which cheap-cheapies like the french and the scots won't pay ) and limited in range.
Well, now u can have ur 5 series or 6 series from Nokia that supports EDGE and wipe urs @sses with them...i wanna see u guys paying triple to send a pic , when u and i can use gprs just fine.
PS: I am not interested in the US market cuz i live in Europe.
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I suggest you start reading mobile communication news or something like this rather than Esato forums. You might learn a few things.
MMS has eventually been what makes GPRS being used. Also some webbrowser like Opera really opened the door to much more attractive "mobile surfing" than WAP offers, and which also increase GPRS usage. There are also quite a few email clients outthere that are quite handy and which make use of GPRS. So data usage will increase, no doubt about that.
You say that there are major providers (I assume you mean operators here) out there that dont provide EDGE because there's no demand for it. That's a wrong understanding. Operators like Vodafone *in UK* for instance have a 3G license, and are not interested to deploy EDGE for this reason.
EDGE is available worldwide (not in all countries), but worldwide anyway: many European countries -including Romania, all Scandinavian countries-, Americas (nationwide in US), many APAC countries, and is up&running! And there are many handsets supporting EDGE, yes, from Nokia. There was e.g. some news last week that 3200 was best selling phones in some Swedish shop.
"Paying triple to send a pic..." "Separate subscription"... I see you have here also a wrong understanding. First, there is no separate subscription to use EDGE. If you have a GPRS subscription, you can use EDGE a) if your phone supports it and b) if your operator supports it. You wont even know you're using it. Its completely transparent to the end user. And afaik charging today is based on amount of data received/sent, not on the datarate used. So you wont pay triple if you use EDGE!! |
andrew99
Joined: Nov 29, 2001
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@mmsman
Any more details about e100? what degree of customisation does it offer?
As for those who say europe doesn't have EDGE so why bother.. it's a bit chicken and egg. If there are no phones, networks say no point in EDGE, then you say no point in having the phones, 'cause there is no network support. I want the features to be on the handset so I can use them if I want, don't want someone to assume that the target group won't want it so they don't include it. That is the sort of approach Nokia did a lot of that really annoyed me (leaving some functionality out of top end phones for no obvious reason). Less of an issue with nokia now. Hope  realise we want it all... and now 
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gforce23
Joined: Aug 25, 2003
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U can get all details of the platform by dloading the PDF leaflet frm the ericsson website.
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mmsman
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i've read the specs again and i don't get it what do you want 
the only thing that i can remember is edge.....
about the form factor, i personally think it combines two excellent features of pda's and candybar phones, big screen withc excellent resolution (240*320) with big buttons for navigating and normal buttons for calling etc.
and i really don't get it why do you like z500? |
andrew99
Joined: Nov 29, 2001
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thanks gforce23 - is there a link you can post, for lazy surfers such as myself?
and mmsman:
not to harp on, but EDGE is kind of important for a megapixel camera. Although come to think of it, is EDGE synchronous or asynchronous, ie is the upload speed fast? that's what is going to be needed for sending massive pics
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mmsman
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oh and btw edge is nice but i see it as hscsd.... also nice but nobody uses it....
but as i said earlier it depends where you live, some countries still don't have 3g while others don't have edge,
and btw: for the pics, it's just like saying that if you have a 5 megapixel camera then you would need adsl.....
more pixels means better quality at lower resolutions, i for one don't think you are going to send 1.3 mp pics to others, i don't even do that on my pc and i have adsl....
plus if you send a 1.3 mp pic to your friend with a 7650 or smthn like that he couldn't even recieve it....
so you will be still sending vga pics....
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andrew99
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another "feature" missing is PTT. why put it in the z500 and not the top end s700? I know it has to do with aiming one at the americas market, but it's one big world out there these days. people in america want the products offered in europe and vice versa. why dictate to us consumers?
not trying to sound too negative though, this is definitely a milestone phone for the gsm market |
gforce23
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I agree with u.
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