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T610 now selling in Dubai |
Oceanlee
Joined: May 07, 2003
Posts: 70
From: UK
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I figure if I'm going to buy an interface for my familys computer I might as well get BT so that they can use the video camera with it as well. I have to figure out what USB ver. they have as well! |
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Freak
Joined: Aug 31, 2002
Posts: 349
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On 2003-05-08 10:07, Oceanlee wrote:
Thanks sahran/nobackup.
So looks like I'll have to get a BT dongle then, damn. I hope their cheap.
As for memory allocation: sahran, do you mean that it shows a 20kb pic only takes 20kb until you try to delete it? If so, then that might be okay, it might be a small bug in the software that shows the file to be deleted incorrectly. The easiest way to check is to try and take 2mb worth of pictures from an empty memory right? (No sounds/games/etc.)
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a USB bluetooth adapter cost here in sweden 45 us dollar! |
sahran
Joined: Mar 15, 2003
Posts: 161
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Oceanlee,
to show you exactly the size of pic in phone look what i do:
1.open my pic then open the pic that i took.
2. there is tow option appear down pic:in the left:ok,in the right:more
i choose more .
3.the more options shows many options like:send,set as wallpaper,screensaver,add to contact e.c. i choose memory status and it shows : free,my sounds,my pic ,e.c i choose my pic.
4.in my pic all pics shows with how much it take alloucation in phone there is tow pics i took first one shows 48 kb and second shows 64 kb this really disappiont me.
5.there is one pic animated shows 84 kb.
i hope this help you to know how much it take memory in phone.
to be aonacely the polyphonic ringtones is very very cooooooooool any polyphon ringtones i send it to phone it work correct and clear not like nokia crap polyphonic becuase my brother got nokia and many polyphonic ringtones not work in his phone but work in my phone.
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Oceanlee
Joined: May 07, 2003
Posts: 70
From: UK
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Thanks for that Sahran. That sounds like really bad memory allocation. As a programmer though, I'm sceptical about how much memory can disappear, it shouldn't be that much (normally on byte boundarys). This is considering the fact that it appears as 20kb on a computer. Would you mind doing the following to check for absolutely certain?
1. Copy all the contents of your phone memory (the 2mb one) onto a computer so you don't lose anything.
2. Take as many pictures as you can in high resolution before the memory is full.
If the total number of pics is <40, then there truly is a memory allocation problem (2mb/~50kb). If it manages around 100 (2mb/~20), then there is no problem except with the memory reader!!
I know this is a hassle so I'll forgive you if you can't be bothered  |
ppcrockar
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden
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Hmm.. The "memory allocation problem" (as you call it) on the T68i, isn't actually a problem or a bug (well a problem for us because stuff takes more memory). The reason for this is not a bug or crappy programming. The images sent to the phone are converted to a raw format to increase speed when using images. That's why images/animations takes more space on the phone. You'll notice that when you first download an image to the phone it takes a while before you can actually see it. But once they are converted to the raw format the images are visible without delay.
I don't know if this "feature" still exists on the T610 though. Maybe SE has increased the cpu speed of the phone enough to let it convert the images "on-the-fly". |
caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
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@ sahran
So how much free memory when you got the phone?? Are those defaulted backgrounds deletable and would it free up more memory after deleted??
So how many games and what are the java applications included?? So how much memory the phone taken for normal backgrounds send to the phone from PC ?? Thanks very much
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Oceanlee
Joined: May 07, 2003
Posts: 70
From: UK
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@ppcrockar
Raw images? Yeah, I suppose that would account for the large image sizes. In which case there can be nothing done about it!!!! Grrr...
I would still like someone to try and take as many pictures on an empty memory as they can to confirm this. Even if it is to see on average how many pictures can be taken. |
sahran
Joined: Mar 15, 2003
Posts: 161
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HIII Caff,,
sorry for late to answer your questions,here the answer:
1. 600 kb free memory when i got the phone .
2. yes there is deletable background : 4 background :classical you cant delete it , and deep ocean,magna glow,nocturne you can delete it. sure it well free up more memory after delete.
3. five games nothing of java applications included.
4. normal background send to the phone :i didnt try it until now.
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caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
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@sahran
Thanks for your reply ! So how come there's only 600k free memory when you goet the phone ?? What are the memory used to ?? For example how many k used to defaulted backgrounds, themes, games, MMS ??
So for pics taken with camera, what's the memory size actually the phone taken ?? When you go to memory status to view the memory the phone actually taken.
Are there any green status led on joystick?? Also is there shown blue led on joystick when bluetooth turn on ??
Thanks
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kidscruff
Joined: Nov 20, 2002
Posts: 332
From: England
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600K ??? 
That's about 10 pictures.
Ooooh, I really want the T610. But I'm not prepared to Master Reset the phone without knowing what I'll loose. I don't want to find out I'll have to log on to  to download all the data profiles...
After Master Reseting my T68i, all my data accounts would be reset after I switched off (something to do with the Orange customisation I think). But it did clear up my phone, without removing the Orange WAP/GPRS settings! |
thanasis
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
Posts: 204
From: London & Athens
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I dont know why this is not the case on sahran's phone but, an SE official commented on the memory of the t610 in Greece, and stated that after software modifications, the final release of the phone would have 2mb, and i mean clean 2000kb, of free memory. The preinstalled items would take up other space outside the 2mb. |
tedsc456
Joined: Nov 27, 2002
Posts: 94
From: Sweden
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I basically agree with you all about the memory problem even though i do not believe it will be a bigproblem for me, it is a phone not a digital camera after all. Anyways, just wanted you all to know that there is very convenient way to upload images to sonyericsson.com. Then you just fetch the ones you want as you need them. I use this procedure with my T68i all the time. Just fetch a nice screen-saver ot Theme from esato or Sonyericsson.com when i want them. Why keep 15 Themes in the phone when it takes 10 sec to get them online. It works great for me! Still of course i would have liked the phone to have 100 mb or what ever but it is no a big problem. Use the WEB as your storage, its free!
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vilde
Joined: Dec 13, 2002
Posts: 267
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Thanasis: Where did you hear or read about the public SE comment?
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Zand
Joined: Jan 31, 2002
Posts: 242
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Just a short question: does the T610 have the little hole to wear it on the SE neck-keyring? Thanks!
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NoBackUp
Joined: May 06, 2003
Posts: 21
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Yes it has a similar hole at the bottom like the P800...
BTW guys ...the size of memory used by a pic in the phone is dependable on the content of the pic i have pics which are on 20KB and others which are 48KB (all at same resolution) the size of the file reported by the phone and the file size after upload to my pc is the same...I freed 1MB on the phone just by getting rid of a bunch of "Aribic" mid files (Ringtones) i now have 1.5 mb free...now I am back in dubai i will make a backup of the phone to my harddisk and restest , so that I can find out what is the max memory avail... |
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