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Author "UIQ is going nowhere, Sony Ericsson are done with it"
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Posted: 2008-10-24 10:01
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On 2008-10-23 17:21:43, nomad84 wrote:

UIQ was all SE. Moto might have a couple of them as well, but i can sell more home made lemonade than the amount they sold Z10



Sadly I don't know that much about the lemonade business, but good luck.


I do, and i can sell more than the amount of Z10 moto sold.
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Posted: 2008-10-24 12:28
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Ok then, lets go and try..
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Posted: 2008-10-24 12:41
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On 2008-10-24 12:28:00, nomad84 wrote:
Ok then, lets go and try..

yes, and if i sell one glass of lemonade, i will have already beaten moto Z10
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Posted: 2008-10-24 14:39
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I don;t think I'll ever by any smartphone again from SE, since they'll probably stop supporting it after 1 year. I bet SE XPERIA X1 will have the same fate as UIQ 3 phones in one year time. If you want WM, buy HTC instead!
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Posted: 2008-10-24 15:08
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On 2008-10-24 14:39:03, illithid wrote:
I don;t think I'll ever by any smartphone again from SE, since they'll probably stop supporting it after 1 year. I bet SE XPERIA X1 will have the same fate as UIQ 3 phones in one year time. If you want WM, buy HTC instead!


Microsoft's WM OS development is independent of SE so it's not the same case with UIQ.

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Posted: 2008-10-24 15:12
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you´r wrong...you only can update WM version on the X1 if SE makes it available in the future...
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Apologies if I sound ignorant out here but wouldn't WM7 need a significantly upgraded hardware set to boot? It's like the jump from XP to Vista.

My point is, some of the latest batch of WinMo 6.1 based devices (X1, Touch HD) might be able to run WM7 but devices with slower processors/less RAM (Kaiser, Diamond, Touch 3G etc.) would display a marked decrease in performance.
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Posted: 2008-10-24 15:44
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my point is still up to SE to provide firmware updates, like with UIQ

and if they "honor" their past...people will be screwed...again
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Posted: 2008-10-24 16:04
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On 2008-10-24 15:44:57, ares wrote:
my point is still up to SE to provide firmware updates, like with UIQ

and if they "honor" their past...people will be screwed...again


you don't know much about WM devices then. Most htc devices, especially branded ones such as HP, Samsung etc, don't provide updates much beyond a year anyway. It's even rarer for WM devices to be offered OS upgrades from one full version to another. Usually when it's possible it's via hacking by xda-developers and other third-parties. No thanks to OEM's or HTC.

Infact, tell me which OEM provides firmware updates much beyond a year anyway? Nokia certainly don't.
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Posted: 2008-10-24 16:48
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Nokia certainly do...you seem to be uninformed on that subject (like me regarding WM...).

A hint...go see how many firmware updates, (and since when), the N95 Classic had...

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Posted: 2008-10-24 17:15
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fair enough, though I was under the impression N95 updates had stopped after 12-18months or so. I'm sure I could be wrong about it.

I know though that the N70 wasn't update much beyond a year, and the software was still inclined to be unstable.

I think it's a complete myth that SE are worse than other OEM's at continued updates of their phones. Most OEM's, SE included, stop releasing firmware updates once the software is judged stable. They'll only update to a new version of the OS if it's deemed necessary to fix stability or operational issues.

Atleast that's the way it's always seemed to me. I know P990 was seen as a problem by many, but most P990 owners are happy enough with the final firmware version, even if it could have been refined a bit more. But the main stability issues were addressed.

It was the early problems with the P990 and SE's slackness at addressing the problems within the first 3-6 months that caused the most grief - not the fact that firmware updates stopped after 12 months.
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Posted: 2008-10-24 17:20
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actually, HTC is offering such updates...
You can update some older devices to wm6 or 6.1
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Posted: 2008-10-24 17:22
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But rarely a full version, for example WM5 to WM6...

There is very little difference between 6 and 6.1 (though there are some advantages in 6.1)
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Posted: 2008-10-24 17:31
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yeah, thats true....
but as long as it's an htc phone you can bet on the guys at xda-developers....those guys are just pure genuises!!!
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Posted: 2008-10-24 17:39
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Agree!

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