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QVGA
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ok, then the topic should be innovative in a huge way because almost every phone brings out something positive
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i wonder if tht little stand at the back in n96 is regarded as being innovative or is it just a good design ???
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On 2008-08-04 12:12:22, QVGA wrote:
ok, then the topic should be innovative in a huge way because almost every phone brings out something positive
I think all manufacturers are innovative in their own ways.
What would you say was innovative as regards to mobiles?
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On 2008-08-04 12:08:46, goldenface wrote:
You admit innovative means to make a positive change, but then say increasing the optical zoom by 33% isn't innovative. 
It might not be hugely innovative but its still innovative.
Whether the change was from 3x to 4x optical zoom or from 3x to 48x optical zoom a 'positive change' has been made and so that would be classed as an innovation - hardly life-changing - but still an innovation nonetheless.
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I have to disagree. If that's innovation, then the word is being over used. Upping specs is different than adding fresh new features. If upping specs is innovation, then every phone has its own little pieces of innovation which would make SE absolutely mediocre, compared to Chinese clone phones.
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However, regardless of how small an innovation is, it is still an innovation regardless of which company it is.
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On 2008-08-04 12:15:32, goldenface wrote:
On 2008-08-04 12:12:22, QVGA wrote:
ok, then the topic should be innovative in a huge way because almost every phone brings out something positive
I think all manufacturers are innovative in their own ways.
What would you say was innovative as regards to mobiles?
i would say innovative is to bring something new, or to improve something old in such a way as to render the old one obsolete. 3 to 4x optical zoom would not be innovative for me, but 3 to 20x would be as it makes 3x totally useless and obsolete.
thats what i think innovation in "mobile phones" is
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On 2008-08-04 12:32:52, goldenface wrote:
However, regardless of how small an innovation is, it is still an innovation regardless of which company it is.
C'mon goldenface, improvement is NOT innovation. Innovation is the black and white MCA-10 camera attachment by Ericsson, HPM-10 portable MP3 player attachment, onboard GPS, dual active SIM, Business Card Scanner. Not 3x zoom to 4x zoom which can be a race just like megapixels, internal memory etc. Let's not degrade innovation to that level
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@mode
I'm only using the official meaning of the word which if taken literally, means the person who stuck an eraser on top of a pencil made an innovation.
Its a good idea to establish the real meaning of the word before we enter into a discussion as to what we each believe an innovation to be, otherwise we end up squabbling like a crate full of battery- chickens. 
@QVGA
That almost sounds like a re-invention.
The Dual memory card slot is an innovation. Being able to use both SD and Sony M2 cards is handy, saves money and saves time.
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to me introducing optical zoom to phones is innovative but increasing 2x to 3x zoom is just an improvement.
introducing a camera in phones was innovative so as AF and MP but increasing MP is not innovative,its and improvment.
if increasing Optical zoom from 2 to 3 and MP from 2-3 was innovation...then everyday is an innovation.
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@Ranjith
Then I guess we're starting to move at the right direction in determining innovation in the mobile context which most of us share
@goldenface
Exactly, I'm just intepreting your argument based on the definition that I gave a few pages back. So I guess we are on the same page after all
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On 2008-08-04 03:13:01, nabhatti wrote:
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out of curiosity, if sum1 tells u that u can put anything in the mobile u can (talking about all the different technologies) wht would u put
bear in mind the size of the phone, the price etc etc
lets hear it
Well, I'd like to see a full on text scanner rather than just a business card scanner. A business card scanner is really innovative whereby you can just capture a business card and it'll be automatically translated into digital format and instantaneously saved into contacts with the phone number, address, email, job title in their correct and respective places without having to key in a single thing. That's powerful so think of what we can do with a full on text scanner where you can instantaneously transform journal text to digital format, and share, email, and keep our own journal library. I can't believe SE has not gone in this direction when they already have the technology which goes to show, no, technology has not yet been exhausted. Innovation is the best just when you think there's nothing more to innovate
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The miniturisation of digital camcorders seems to be advancing somewhat so quality HD recording on mobiles shouldn't be too far off.
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QVGA
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LG did release a phone with WVGA video recording, albeit at 15FPS, so the age of camcorder phone isnt far
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it will be very interesting to a phone capable of recording in HD format and rumors are nokia is planning to launch one
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HD in phones...
that's innovative.
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