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fullforce
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On 2007-11-22 14:55:53, BobaFett wrote:
no, but its all about a bit logic and the biz. just check other tests, somewhere n95 is the winner, in another test another fone etc
its the same as the fone reviews, the results are often different, even they test the same fone...
Yes i get your point but i think you are a tad cynical there. I rather think that the different testers often get different results by pure chance. Some shots get bad and some get good, sometimes this is not depending on wich model you use. |
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joemax
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On 2007-11-22 22:39:48, plankgatan wrote:
the battery life is terrible on N82 (Stand-by Up to 225 h)...(k850 have up to 400 h)...end of story.
its nearly twice as much.................
Actually my N95 lasts plenty good. N82 would be better. Even after many long sessions on BROADBAND WIFI  The latest FW update (yes Nokia actually release them unlike SE) to the N95-1 will add demand paging and much other stuff. This will improve battery life.
Admittedly the K850 battery runs for ever... but then the phone is actually incapable of doing an eighth of the things an N Series can do. Processor use eats power, use the device for cool things and it will suck power out of the battery.
I have this magical thing called a wall socket in my house that I use to charge my phone up overnight when I am asleep. Even you planky cannot use your K850 when your asleep.
In the Land Rover I plug this amazing thing into one of the power outlets and it charges the phone up too... incredible it is.
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razec
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On 2007-11-22 18:17:53, Dogmann wrote:
@plankgatan
You know hat you are really funny how you can have the audacity to talk about the bugs and problems the N95 when this Forum is full of the bugs and problems that the K850 has is just so funny.
The battery life on the N82 is going to be better not worse as it has demand paging which is much kinder to power consumption and aids battery life it doesn't make it worse.
As for the Music player the N series has a great Music player and no need for a gimmick like Mega bass that actually does nothing for the true sound.
As for the K850 being faster that's strange as many here have complained of the fact how slow the K850 is even compared to the K800/k810, which isn't surprising as the K850 has the new platform and so much more to process but still with the same old processor.
The new N82 due to demand paging and a 332mhz processor opens all apps fast and performs better than previous S60 models. It's really a shame that just because you want something to be true it isn't.
Please explain just what the K850 has that the N82 doesn't as the other way round there is loads of things the N82 has the K850 doesn't the only thing the N82 doesn't have is an SE badge which at this point in time is a bonus not a deficiency unless of course you only buy SE and your devices by brand in which case it's your loss and no one else's.
We all get you love SE and are a big fan but just some times a little objectivity would be a good thing and stop you making so many obviously biased statements that are just not supported by the facts.
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Wow  dogmann you mispelled the "Marc" name? 
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mib1800
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On 2007-11-22 22:39:48, plankgatan wrote:
the battery life is terrible on N82 (Stand-by Up to 225 h)...(k850 have up to 400 h)...end of story.
its nearly twice as much.................
So what? Are you going to let your phone sits on the table like a dumb-as* without using it?
K850 has a pretty shitty battery life for a dumb-phone. On normal use, N82 will probably last 2-3 days. There is no way in hell that K850 can last twice as long as that (which you foolishly tried to implied). K850 will be very lucky if it can last 20% longer N82.
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c96sthl
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On 2007-11-23 04:13:41, mib1800 wrote:
On 2007-11-22 22:39:48, plankgatan wrote:
the battery life is terrible on N82 (Stand-by Up to 225 h)...(k850 have up to 400 h)...end of story.
its nearly twice as much.................
So what? Are you going to let your phone sits on the table like a dumb-as* without using it?
K850 has a pretty shitty battery life for a dumb-phone. On normal use, N82 will probably last 2-3 days. There is no way in hell that K850 can last twice as long as that (which you foolishly tried to implied). K850 will be very lucky if it can last 20% longer N82.
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plankgatan
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On 2007-11-23 04:13:41, mib1800 wrote:
On 2007-11-22 22:39:48, plankgatan wrote:
the battery life is terrible on N82 (Stand-by Up to 225 h)...(k850 have up to 400 h)...end of story.
its nearly twice as much.................
So what? Are you going to let your phone sits on the table like a dumb-as* without using it?
K850 has a pretty shitty battery life for a dumb-phone. On normal use, N82 will probably last 2-3 days. There is no way in hell that K850 can last twice as long as that (which you foolishly tried to implied). K850 will be very lucky if it can last 20% longer N82.
???????
i spook with Nokia web team yesterday...they said that N82 (ordinary using...20-30 pictures, 3G, etc, etc....last 1-2 days !!!!!!!!!
N82 have only 4 h talktime...thats NOT very good...and yes, k850 last way longer, at least twice that time........
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G-Izzat
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On 2007-11-23 11:55:52, plankgatan wrote:
On 2007-11-23 04:13:41, mib1800 wrote:
On 2007-11-22 22:39:48, plankgatan wrote:
the battery life is terrible on N82 (Stand-by Up to 225 h)...(k850 have up to 400 h)...end of story.
its nearly twice as much.................
So what? Are you going to let your phone sits on the table like a dumb-as* without using it?
K850 has a pretty shitty battery life for a dumb-phone. On normal use, N82 will probably last 2-3 days. There is no way in hell that K850 can last twice as long as that (which you foolishly tried to implied). K850 will be very lucky if it can last 20% longer N82.
???????
i spook with Nokia web team yesterday...they said that N82 (ordinary using...20-30 pictures, 3G, etc, etc....last 1-2 days !!!!!!!!!
N82 have only 4 h talktime...thats NOT very good...and yes, k850 last way longer, at least twice that time........
Dude, seriously, the battery doesn't matter in this thread. Please don't defend the K850 too much. I know you love it like hell. But people have their own opinions.
The more you defend it, the more people will try to annoy you. Let those who wants to bash it be. It's good to know that you're having a great time with it. So, enjoy it, mate.
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plankgatan
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ok..maybe.
just one last thing about the battery........................
someone explain this ?????
N82:
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1050 mAh (BP-6MT)
Stand-by Up to 225 h
Talk time Up to 4 h
N73:
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1100 mAh (BP-6M )
Stand-by Up to 350 h
Talk time Up to 6 h
WHY HAVE N73 BETTER BATTERY THEN N82 ???????? (N73 have less power eating functions ???)
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G-Izzat
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On 2007-11-23 13:32:04, plankgatan wrote:
ok..maybe.
just one last thing about the battery........................
someone explain this ?????
N82:
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1050 mAh (BP-6MT)
Stand-by Up to 225 h
Talk time Up to 4 h
N73:
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1100 mAh (BP-6M )
Stand-by Up to 350 h
Talk time Up to 6 h
WHY HAVE N73 BETTER BATTERY THEN N82 ???????? (N73 have less power eating functions ???)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-23 12:32 ]
N73 and N82 is quite different, I should say. One have 3mp camera while the other has a 5mp camera. N82 is much powerful than N73.
C'mon, Plank. Let it be, mate. You don't need to say bad things about Nokia.
Most threads that I've read in here are now kinda becoming like the Playstation 3 versus X-box 360 threads. Lots of fanboys everywhere.
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masseur
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battery life of 2 nokia models has nothing to do with the subject of K850 winning a camera test
please get back to topic otherwise this will be closed
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Dogmann
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@mps60
OK so just because your friend says so we all have to agree do we, just how does he encode his Music and at what Bit Rate and format?
As that is what effects the quality of the sound you hear along with the hardware that powers the device. I use AAC @256kbps with a pair of Shure EC2g headphones and the sound is nothing short of stunning good enough to replace my 5th generation iPod.
As unlike some i actually tried both the W880 and a W950 and the sound from both was both lower in Volume and had a much less well defined sound stage. I have never had my battery run flat and only charge last thing at night unless i am using Tom Tom with my external GPS receiver in the car with my phone in which case it is hardly difficult or hard to use a in car charger or is that to difficult for you?
Whilst your K850 may only be a phone well actually a Camera phone to be accurate the N95/ N95 8GB is actually a Multimedia smart phone and able to perform many more tasks than just a phone and Camera and does them well.
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K850 is a decent multimedia phone (as is the K800). It doesn't have as good resolution as N95 but the screen size isn't that much different and the resolution at such small screen sizes isn't as critical to viewablility as it would be on a full sized display. The Nokia's (especially the vga screen versions) will play a broader range of video formats (with third party players), but K850 plays video really well (if you disable orientation sensor) if you resample it to the correct specifications. It's true Nokia N95 is pushing the envelope, but this doesn't mean K850 is only a camera phone. It has well and truly the features to call it a high performance MultiMedia device.
And depending on your perspective, has better detail in it's base pictures, which with intelligent use of onboard manual controls can be much better than N95 pics. Really my only concern with K850 pictures is the purple tinge. This is disappointing. But in all other respects I can see by using the exposure control and iso control on the K850 most of the other factors where default settings of the N95 best the K850, can be overcome. IMHO the K850 is a more useful and flexible camera than the N95.
All this either/or stuff has finally broken me guys.  The N95 and K850 are both good phones. One can prefer K850 without having to hate the N95 (and vice versa). The N95, and N82 are very nice phones there is no doubt about it. But just because they have many technical specs that are ahead of the K850, it's no reason to dismiss the K850 completely. For many people the SE UI is way ahead of Nokia, the styling is more appealing and the camera is more flexible. These aren't things you can assess on an absolute basis. They are factors that will have different meanings for different people. When I look at the pros and cons of N series versus SE K series, I invariably find more to my liking in the K series. This is not because of blind fanboyism but simply because K series suit my personal needs. No one should have to defend their reasons for liking this phone over that. If everyone wanted the phone that is best on paper it would be a boring world with everyone walking around with identical phones! How boring would that be!!
Also while one phone might be better on paper, it doesn't automatically follow that the other phone therefore has nothing to offer. As an example, I might drool over the latest ferrari or lambo sports cars, but I'd still be pretty freakin' happy in a Nissan 200SX! And in many ways I would prefer the better economy, cheaper parts, and better reliability of the Nissan over the Ferrari.
There is no single answer to which phone is better, not even in the narrow perspective of Camera comparisons alone.
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chombos1
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Nice post max_wedge
BUT:
i think that the nokia N95 have a QVGA(240*320) screen resolusion... SAME as the K850
and resolution is simply the number of pixels in a dispaly not the screen size!!
besides... can you name more than 1 nokia VGA screen phone!!!
and one more thing: i think it's the K850 that is able to play more video formats such as .WMV(not saying the quality.. just the number of supported video formats)
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mib1800
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max_wedge:
why so long winded? You can just use "personal preference"?
Personal preferences cannot be debated. We are just looking at absolute here.
Maybe you can only tolerate speed of 90mph which your nissan (k850) can do as well as the ferrari (N82). But to say the nissan is as good as the ferrari because both can go at 90mph is just ridiculous and sounds more like self consolation to me.  |
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@chombos1
Video resolutions: VGA (640x480 pixels) at 30 fps N95 N82
k850 doesnt support that |
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