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Sony Ericsson K850 vs. Nokia N95: 5 megapixel shootout |
mib1800
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Yes n95 has got bigger sensor size, any way the battle is on. its 31:34 not 11:34 right.
Actually there is no battle. If the take the rest of the functionalities into account (which should be the case when we buy a phone), then it will be more like 31:100 (K850: N95)
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-09-09 09:48:00, hemnath123 wrote:
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look at the S700i CCD camera, but how bulky it is.
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Don't confuse the S700's bulk for being caused by the CCD sensor. It was due to the swivel. Compare the K850i's size with the best camera phone on the market today, the i-mobile 902:
K850: 102x48x17 mm
i-mobile 902: 102x48x17.5 mm
I don't think SE chose a CMOS sensor to shave off half a millimeter from the phone's size . . .
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hemnath123
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On 2007-09-09 09:58:07, mib1800 wrote:
Yes n95 has got bigger sensor size, any way the battle is on. its 31:34 not 11:34 right.
Actually there is no battle. If the take the rest of the functionalities into account (which should be the case when we buy a phone), then it will be more like 31:100 (K850: N95)
if so i am very much happy. But i am sony fan.
One more info guys, the N73 sensor size is 5.6mm and the sony ericsson k800i/k810i is ~ 5.2mm (5.18mm). so wait for the final stable firmware of k850i. We all want good mobile phones.
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hemnath123
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On 2007-09-09 10:29:45, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-09-09 09:48:00, hemnath123 wrote:
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look at the S700i CCD camera, but how bulky it is.
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Don't confuse the S700's bulk for being caused by the CCD sensor. It was due to the swivel. Compare the K850i's size with the best camera phone on the market today, the i-mobile 902:
K850: 102x48x17 mm
i-mobile 902: 102x48x17.5 mm
I don't think SE chose a CMOS sensor to shave off half a millimeter from the phone's size . . .
yes. it not alone becuase of CCD sensor but some extra factors. i think i mobile sensor size should be much below than k850i. |
Tervel
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On 2007-09-06 20:53:06, Prom1 wrote:
On 2007-09-05 02:29:11, Tervel wrote:
Whoever says that the K850's sole selling point is the CyberShot doesn't know enough about the specs of the phone to talk about it. How about the fact that it not only has quad-band GSM coverage, EDGE but also boasts tri-band 3G coverage with HSDPA speeds of up to 3.6mbps? For anyone who travels across the pond this is Huge benefit because they can use high-speed internet on both sides. Try using 3g on the Nokia in the US - good luck, you won't find anything but EDGE and that will be at 192 max download.
This is resolved with a N95 US Edition with Dual band (850/1900mhz) 3G for US/Canada/Mexico and South America! Also with a BETTER batter that’ll be RETAIL available at the NY Nokia store weeks before the K850i begins to even SHIP! Don’t pull wool over your eyes with OLD assumptions and outdated facts.
So from what you're saying, it'll still not be the SAME as the K850 because you'll have a US version and a World version... Way to go Backwards Nokia! This is where SE was a year ago and found out that it doesn't make sense. That's why this phone is Unique as far as SE is concerned - it is a True World Phone.
Oh - and it's great it'll be available in NYC... Guess what - in the rest of the country Nokia only has stupid Kiosks which can't even sell a freakin' phone! They're the most pointless things ever.
Whomever said that “Purple Fringing” is caused by a LENS???? It’s the SENSOR. Example many current and 2 yr old Kodak camaras – point & shoot & the 10x zoom (which uses Multiple Lenses) – have purple fringing around the corners of the images that they take. There is even the case of a Canon A40 – which has interchangeable lenses – that had purple fringing until they revamped their assembly line. No feature changes just the chip!
Good to see that you're an expert on Color Fringing. Well here's a little explanation on Fringing for you hot shot:
Color fringing is caused by lateral chromatic aberration, one of the two types of chromatic aberration in lenses, both of which arise from dispersion in glass: the variation in its ability to bend light (its index of refraction) with wavelength (color). Longitudinal chromatic aberration is the change of the lens's point of focus for different wavelengths. Lateral chromatic aberration is the change in a lens's magnification for different wavelengths, resulting in color fringing. It tends to be worst in highly asymmetric lenses, particularly in retrofocus ultrawides
Your example of old Kodak cameras is also poor since I still have one and am familiar with them (DC200, DC210 etc) and they just so happen to be using plastic lenses...
It COULD be that it's sensor related, but it's very likely it is LENS related also.
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kreacher
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On 2007-09-04 14:59:51, darknoob wrote:
-K850 got 5.18mm sensor while Nokia N95 got 5.6 mm.
That's a huge hardware disadvantage for K850 right there. I doubt this can be overcome by just updating the firmware unless Nokia has really crappy software and SE has a really good one.
Even ignoring the video part of the scores the N95 camera score is just one point lower, not really conclusive. Considering that the K850 is this year's Cyber-Shot flagship that's not really good enough from SE.
I hope SE comes out with their improved camera module sooner rather than later and it can be called a clear winner. |
AbuBasim
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On 2007-09-13 09:10:29, kreacher wrote:
On 2007-09-04 14:59:51, darknoob wrote:
-K850 got 5.18mm sensor while Nokia N95 got 5.6 mm.
That's a huge hardware disadvantage for K850 right there.
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Not sensor size! From the comparison:
The focal length of the Sony Ericsson K850 is recorded there as 5.18 mm, while the one of the Nokia N95 it is 5.60 mm. That along with the fact that the two phones have the same field of view means that Nokia N95 has larger sensor and we can expect better performance from this phone in terms of noise and dynamic range.
But if you have the focal length and know the distance to an object being photographed, then you can use basic trigonometry to calculate the sensor size.
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