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N95 battery life (buy p1i as a result?) |
ttsng
Joined: Nov 09, 2006
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I think the N95 battery life problem may be caused by defective parts. A N95 owner said the battery life problem was fixed after replacing the N95 motherboard. | |
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sapporobaby
Joined: Sep 14, 2003
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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On 2007-07-24 02:34:08, mongoose3800 wrote:
I have to wonder. If you N95 owners were to play music non stop how long would the battery last? As a multi media device this is the most basic function it could perform and a function that I would use frequently - especially when travelling. Now I know My K800 is not in the same league as the N95 but as multimedia devices they do share the most commonly used functions - so it is fair to make some comparisons and expect decent battery life. Both my K800 and my old W800 could play music all day long, take calls, take photo's and so on without dropping below 50%.
Neither phone runs Symbian, so a direct comparison is useless. Symbian by its nature reqires much more power to run. I do not recall the battery sizes but I think they were a bit larger in capacity than the N95. As I said I could be wrong on this.
I'm still amazed that some of you consider it acceptable to have to charge or carry a spare battery around.
What is the big deal with charging a phone? I still have yet to see this as a problem. By all means, please enlighten me why this can be an issue. IAs for the battery life, it is what it is. There are ways to extend it but until they come up with a way to cram 1500 mAh into a 950 mAh space, we are stuck with it.
I don't think the battery cover or the batteries are really designed to take the wear involved.
Who knows. This is your opinion that you are bringing for as sort of a fact. Ask Nokia as I am sure they have data on the wear and tear of the battery case.
As far as "preparation" goes - Nokia should have done this by providing a battery that is up to the demands of the N95.
Once again, Nokia does not make batteries. They buy them. Now from an engineering point of view, maybe the 950 mAh battery was the only size that would fit. I don't know but as far as Symbian OS phones go, UIQ and Series 60, I would like to see a head to head comparison of OS times with comparable phones.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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28juni
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
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it sucks the same as every UI3.
had a m600i 2 days and its over with the battery. i have a n95 and the same thing!
but HELLO! it has better specs than my m600i so i dont give a *^%&*
i dont know where you live, but we have litle things in the wall and when you put a charger in it, my battery will be charged!
it has a better display, that usses a lot of power, wifi, and a much more than a m600i
BUT IT WILL NEVER BE GOOD IN YOUR EYES, LETS MAKE A M600I WITH A 2 COLLOR DISPLAY AND NO TOUCHSCREEN, IT WILL GIVE THE M600I A BETTER BATTERY LIFE!
but you will post here that you want a better display and a touchscreen!
* a TIP:
dont worry so much it will kill you. just be happy what you got.
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>500
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
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im sure none of you had to charge your phone AGAIN half way through the day, after taking it off charge that same morning. Charging a phone is no big deal, but twice a day, come on! At least last the full day. dont mention the 2nd battery please, have already gone through that issue.
if you have needed to do this, you wouldnt be saying all these things. The battery life seems to be getting better now (the slide still sucks how ever  ) and now the software update why me!!!!!
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28juni
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
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i am ussing the n95 for 2 month and the battery life will inprove after a weeks. it stays a life for about 2 days, but set your divice on gsm only that will save battery. so don't use 3G, when i use internet that i put it on. |
sapporobaby
Joined: Sep 14, 2003
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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i dont know where you live, but we have litle things in the wall and when you put a charger in it, my battery will be charged!
A bit harsh but funny none the less. If the N95 is making people unhappy, the thing to do would be to simply get rid of it, get something else and save the wear and tear on your keyboards.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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On 2007-07-24 09:40:22, >500 wrote:
im sure none of you had to charge your phone AGAIN half way through the day, after taking it off charge that same morning. Charging a phone is no big deal, but twice a day, come on! At least last the full day. dont mention the 2nd battery please, have already gone through that issue.
If you dont surf wifi/take video non-stop, N95 battery can certainly last 8-10hrs under the most intense usage. I have some figures here. Off charger 7pm last night and now is 9pm (uptime: 26hrs). Usage: 64 min calls, 12 sms, ~20min wifi, 5 photos and about 40mins of using PIM. Battery now left with 4bars (i.e. drop 3bars). Set to gsm-only mode.
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below24
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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From: London
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Does everyone here agree that switchhing to just GSM mode as opposed to Dual does save the battery life, also changing the back light brightness helps. Although the phone still regulates the brightness when this is set to low.
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mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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From: Australia
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On 2007-07-24 09:27:18, sapporobaby wrote:
What is the big deal with charging a phone? I still have yet to see this as a problem. By all means, please enlighten me why this can be an issue. IAs for the battery life, it is what it is. There are ways to extend it but until they come up with a way to cram 1500 mAh into a 950 mAh space, we are stuck with it.
It's pointless having this discussion with you. You obviously live in your own little world with power outlets everywhere and don't appreciate what has been said in the last few pages. Forget the make and OS of the phone - this is not a Nokia/symbian bashing exercise. Look at the basis of this discussion as being on the ability of this phone to meet the mobile needs of everybody. Now, consider that not everyone will want to carry a spare battery and charger. This alone defeats the purpose of a mobile device as you have to either fill your pockets or carry a bag with you just to cover the power requirements of a phone. The majority of people expect to leave their charger at home, be able to use their phone all day and only have to charge it at night. Unlike you, not everyone will have the oportunity to charge their phone when the battery runs flat. i.e. those who work outside. I fail to understand why you don't see this point.
Let's focus on you for a minute. Your sitting in you perfect power everywhere world. You've happily brought your spare battery to work, plugged in your charger at work and even have a charger in your car. Today, your spare battery is flat and on charge. Your work asks you to catch a taxi to another location. During this time you have to make a lot of phone calls and are expected to stay late. Would you be happy when your phone went flat? |
sapporobaby
Joined: Sep 14, 2003
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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@mongoose,
You brought up the N95, not me so let's be clear here. I don't live in a perfect world of power outlets. I just happen to live a 1st world country where power is not an issue. Second, if you don't want to carry an extra battery, then don't. No one is forcing you to. If you don't want to charge, or can't charge your phone daily then get a phone with a big fat battery, use that then be happy. Obviously Nokia thought when they designed the phone that a 950 mAh battery would be enough. Wonder what made them think that. Could it be testing, usage performance measurement testing, etc...? Hmmm..... Nokia has plenty of engineers who's job is to think about these things, and apparently they all agreed that for this phone, the 950 mAh battery should be enough. For your purposes, its not. Then either dump the phone, keep the phone and deal with it, or go design your own battery. For a multi-media phone that does what it does, the N95 will draw quite a bit of power. However, many users here point out that their phone last all day, and night.
As for arguing with me, once again, no one asked you to. I just do not agree with you. My N95 does what I need it to do. If I use all of its features, I have no one to blame if it goes flat.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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mongooes
It's pointless having this discussion with you. You obviously live in your own little world with power outlets everywhere and don't appreciate what has been said in the last few pages. Forget the make and OS of the phone - this is not a Nokia/symbian bashing exercise. Look at the basis of this discussion as being on the ability of this phone to meet the mobile needs of everybody. Now, consider that not everyone will want to carry a spare battery and charger. This alone defeats the purpose of a mobile device as you have to either fill your pockets or carry a bag with you just to cover the power requirements of a phone. The majority of people expect to leave their charger at home, be able to use their phone all day and only have to charge it at night. Unlike you, not everyone will have the oportunity to charge their phone when the battery runs flat. i.e. those who work outside. I fail to understand why you don't see this point.
Let's focus on you for a minute. Your sitting in you perfect power everywhere world. You've happily brought your spare battery to work, plugged in your charger at work and even have a charger in your car. Today, your spare battery is flat and on charge. Your work asks you to catch a taxi to another location. During this time you have to make a lot of phone calls and are expected to stay late. Would you be happy when your phone went flat?
What is actually your problem? If someone dont want to charge their N95 daily, then they just dont use the wifi/gps/video rec functions. Use it like the k800 (i.e. make calls/sms/take low-res photo), then the N95 will last 2-3 days per charge without problem. Then again, wont that be stupid to buy the N95 just to use it like the spec-inferior K800.
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sapporobaby
Joined: Sep 14, 2003
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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@mib1800
Hey dude. 
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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From: Australia
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Seems I've upset you two. I'm sure some pointed out that their phone battery went flat with very little use - I just tried to look at it from that point and debate that issue. For the record I don't have an N95 and commented on how I would feel if any phone suffered poor battery life with normal usage. Go back read my comments. It was never my intention upset those who make bold one sided statements and are then sensitive when someone disagrees.
Sapporobaby - You asked me to "enlighten" you on how the need to charge a battery would be an issue. I tried to do that and tried to use you as an example just to see if you could understand my point. Obviously you find this offensive. So, I have no desire to upset you or debate this any further. If you're happy to accept the battery life then so be it - if that's what you accept that's what companies will continue to deliver. |
Jaymz
Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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On 2007-07-24 02:34:08, mongoose3800 wrote:
I have to wonder. If you N95 owners were to play music non stop how long would the battery last?
That's kinda what i'm going to be testing for the next week. I just got a N95 today, going to have to decide whether it can replace my W950i or not.
Day 1 didn't really leave me impressed. it was charging through the night and first thing in the morning, at around 7:00, i turned it on, at around 10:00 i hooked it up to the HBH-DS970 which i'm used to using non-stop. It is now around 16:00 and the N95 is bitchin' about low battery. i've listend to music for about an hour (A2DP), captured a 30 sec video, made quite a few calls, hooked it up to the PC 2 times and made one short video call.
Unacceptable. For a phone to die before my HBH-DS970 dies seems like a miracle to me. And i'm used to to listening to maybe 4-5 hours of music a day (A2DP), while the W950i is constantly connected to the internet through a data connection and still coming home at night with 30%-40% battery.
I hope things seem better tomorrow. Of course, tomorrow i might be tempted to try the GPS and / or Wi-FI, which means it could be worse. |
sapporobaby
Joined: Sep 14, 2003
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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@Mongoose,
Let's start at zero.
I see your point about the battery life of the N95 and for that matter most phones. The only phone I have ever seen that can run for days is my E61. It just won't die. I have left it for 3 or more days and come back to see it still chugging away.
With that being said, more can be done, I guess, on the battery front however just like all phone makers, Nokia buys batteries. Someone, rightly or wrongly, made the decision to put a 950 mAh battery in the N95. It is simply to small in many cases but for some, it is a moot issue. I decided that there is no other way around the battery issue so I came up with my own fix. In my opinion, SE nor the other phone makers have anything remotely interesting or on par with the N95, so I decided to get an extra battery, charge it at night, and try to limit unpleseant experiences. So far this works for me. For others this is not enough and they are not wrong for wanting more.
Hope this cleared things up. I was not offended or angry by the way.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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Posted: 2007-07-24 06:47
