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The Danish Mohammad cartoon row - what do you think? |
PeterKay
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Tru, they fail to see what america is doing to the islamic world by bombing them daily and killing innocent lives. The media bemuses and fools them and the public fall to the lies.
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amnesia
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putting it blunt.
If an Islamic country made fun of the western religion, it wouldn't be tolerated. But when millions of people show that they are taking offence, it's argued that they dont have the right to react to what they believe is an insult.
Then there are people who say, it's their country they are free to do what they want. When an Arabic country does what it wants within it's borders, the US has to come and interfere and 'liberate' them.
You see, western countries argue that they what their ideology to rein supreme, when thats not the way things go.
People can complain and debate this issue as much as they want, but at the end of the day, it's obvious that millions are angry at this and it's obvious that the drawing of the prophet is a taboo, so why do it?
I can tell you this, if I had the power in my hands to make a whole community angry or to leave it alone. I WOULD choose the latter.
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PeterKay
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well said bruv.
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Uncle Bob
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World, leave them alone.
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jagger2k
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for god sake, they are just cartoons!!!!! Why is it only muslims that make a dinner and dance over every little thing?? Like some one else posted about the simpsons and homer taking the piss out of apu's statue of ganesh, there wasnt a big deal made about that.
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@Uncle Bob
thats the spirit!!
@jagger2k
No man.... u know its wrong.... u know we are like this... so why do it?? why do something that can cause massacre... its simple as that... freedom of expression is one thing, however theres also this thing called repecting and u know Islam is very sensitive regarding our religion.. so dont to it.. why do these people play with fire, when they know its going to hurt.
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Sammy_boy
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I think that Western religions have been lampooned quite a bit in the past, but there hasn't been the reaction that there has been to these cartoons.
I sometimes feel there are double standards at work at times - not that I'm trying to excuse these cartoons, as I said before, it's taking freedom of speech too far, and seems unprovoked too.
If you excuse my brief venture into talking theoretically and consipiracy theories, you could argue that radical islamists had something to do with those cartoons - as it would whip the Muslim world up into a frenzy, create more sympathy for their radical cause and turn more 'moderate' muslims into extremists and West-haters.
Those cartoons and the surrounding row imho have done a lot more damage to West-Muslim relations than you might think. It still seems to me though that some are making a mountain out of a molehill. I know they're insulting - but seeing all those pictures of burning embassies and (an admittedly small number, but the ones that get all the press attention) protestors in London vowing revenge and death, and one dressing up as a suicide bomber reinforces many people's already skewed views of a peaceful religion. 
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joebmc
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No man.... u know its wrong.... u know we are like this... so why do it?? why do something that can cause massacre... its simple as that... freedom of expression is one thing, however theres also this thing called repecting and u know Islam is very sensitive regarding our religion..
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To me it sounds like your saying muslims are special and non-muslims arn't ( u know Islam is very sensitive regarding our religion.. ) I'm sure everyone no matter what religion they are beleaves there religion is "very sensitive".
I cant help but feel the media have played a huge part in blowing this up. I'm sure there are worse things happing that need headlining rather than some petty cartoon.
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If you excuse my brief venture into talking theoretically and consipiracy theories, you could argue that radical islamists had something to do with those cartoons - as it would whip the Muslim world up into a frenzy, create more sympathy for their radical cause and turn more 'moderate' muslims into extremists and West-haters.
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Where's axxxr? He loves a good consipiracy (but i'm sure he'll just fob this one off  )
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@Uncle Bob
thats the spirit!!
@jagger2k
No man.... u know its wrong.... u know we are like this... so why do it?? why do something that can cause massacre... its simple as that... freedom of expression is one thing, however theres also this thing called repecting and u know Islam is very sensitive regarding our religion.. so dont to it.. why do these people play with fire, when they know its going to hurt.
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axxxr
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On 2006-02-05 18:43:36, joebmc wrote:
Where's axxxr? He loves a good consipiracy (but i'm sure he'll just fob this one off )
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Im here old chap...always watching and learning! 
This ain't a conspiracy just pain facts...so im not interested!
No joke aside....most of the points raised by Dealer3,02,Peterkay,Amnesia i completely agree with 100%.....its pretty much what i would have said aswell.
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On 2006-02-05 18:48:02, 02 wrote:
@Uncle Bob
thats the spirit!!
@jagger2k
No man.... u know its wrong.... u know we are like this... so why do it?? why do something that can cause massacre... its simple as that... freedom of expression is one thing, however theres also this thing called repecting and u know Islam is very sensitive regarding our religion.. so dont to it.. why do these people play with fire, when they know its going to hurt.
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while i agree with some of what your saying one bit sticks out to me"why do something that can cause massacre"
so why walk the streets of london dressed in a ski mask (if you believe in what your saying why hide your face) or dressed as a sucide bomber saying that 9/11 is coming to england etc.
surely this can cause a massacre and also isnt really very islamic at the same time, nor does it paint a pretty picture of islam for the uneducated. granted this was a small minority but still |
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so why walk the streets of london dressed in a ski mask (if you believe in what your saying why hide your face) or dressed as a sucide bomber saying that 9/11 is coming to england etc.
surely this can cause a massacre and also isnt really very islamic at the same time, nor does it paint a pretty picture of islam for the uneducated. granted this was a small minority but still
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Its this small minority that is bringing down the views of islam and islam itself, fuleling the fire for the anti-muslim. Mulsims need to address these small minority, which imo is doing far greater worse to muslims than a cartoon depicting allah.
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amnesia
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@joe, "To me it sounds like your saying muslims are special and non-muslims arn't ( u know Islam is very sensitive regarding our religion.. ) I'm sure everyone no matter what religion they are beleaves there religion is "very sensitive". "
So if I think it's alright to kill people, does it mean that it's alright?
It's an exteme example but it shows the point.
As I said, Muslims don't like it. It's not just a cartoon, it's showing the Prophet with a bomb and the word God on it. Its insulting.
Why are you saying that we think Muslims are special? Because we dont like to be made fun of? Because we are in politically correct times?
Why dont white people say the word Nigger in public?
Seems to me, it's not about the issue anymore, you've got an alterior motive.
So far quite a few people have tried to explain their reasoning, but you've just avoiding listen to people.
It's wrong.
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BobaFett
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the scandinavian countries will survive that "product" ban etc its such a childish and pointless circus about it in the arabian, muslim countries...
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