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S4k1s
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Only Nokia phone I would touch is the N70, all other Nokias suck. This new E-series is really bad bad bad ...
The N70 is a really nice phone though and I'm thinking of buying one. |
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alexlt
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From: A Valley in Peru
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Why such a wonderful screens in a device which is targeted for a Business Market?? 
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S4k1s
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Nokias research shows (Enterprise )people need 16million colors and big screens to read their e-mail :] |
alexlt
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16 million colors just for an email I will perfectly understand in devices marketed as multimedia or imaging, but in a business phone??
Why do you need so many colours?? Most business emails are texts, maybe some graphics, but you will perfectly fit with a 65K colours screen 
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orange
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On 2005-10-16 19:33:24, Prom1 wrote:
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On 2005-10-13 08:02:40, orange wrote:
BTW. You don't need two cameras to make a videocall...And if you still didn't notice, those E-devices are aimed to corporates/enterprizes and business people. Videocalls and still imaging are hardly the features that those intrest groups are seeking from a device, which is a tool for them to make their work more effectively while they are out of office.
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What? Are you on both sides of this arguement?? None of the Nokia E-series is "properly" suited to corporates/enterprises business clients. Maybe for those that pay for their OWN phones, but not for employees issued a corporate phone to access their MS Outlook Exchange emails while mobile. I work for a coporate company. IBM. And they check your phone, everyday before entering past the security desk to make sure that your phone doesnt have a camera & memory card slot. They also check for USB keys & CD-R/RW, DVD-R/RWs. all this when you enter & leave the campus. Because their under contract - just like employees are - with their clients to protect the proprietory information & security of their information. The E60 has a camera & memory card slot. Fails in the security check. The E61 has a memory card slot. It too fails. The 70 has a camera & memory card slot it also fails. The SE P990i too fails. So would the Motorola Q as well. ALL of RIM's BlackBerry's dont have expandable memory card slots. They also dont have camera's. They would pass this security test. And if provisioned on a corporates server (MS Outlook Exchnage Server or Lotus Notes Domino) then they can be locked remotely so that EVEN a firmware upgrade or downgrade (yes the OS can be downgraded) wouldnt unlock the device. This lock is seperate from SIM card lock. This is a AES DES encryption lock! Nothing is gonna hack it short of 1year of continuous uptime on a mainframe! Its a proven solution that coporations trust. Read up about it before comparing anything to it. I do tech support for them as well; although at a limited level.
Now that is out of the way.
The P990i offers supreme camera quality pictures to anything out there because it uses the same technology proven already in the K750/W800 phones. Nokia is close with the N90 using Carl Zeiss lens but isnt gonna work on the Eseries or other 2 Nseries. That is multimedia. SE's solution for music could be improved, but Nokia doesnt have anything that compares as anyone knows of yet (N91 & 3250 are preliminary so any previews are not contrary).
The Nokia E61 doesnt offer anything email support wise that the P990i should be capable of. So their evenly matched here. Sure 802.11i/e/g is much better but because its so slim, I'm thinking that lack of antenna signal strength is the reason for those technologies in use. We'll see though after production line is launched and available.
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WOW! I'm not quite sure how your post relates to the quoting. Care to explain a bit?
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On 2005-10-17 01:46, alexlt wrote:
16 million colors just for an email I will perfectly understand in devices marketed as multimedia or imaging, but in a business phone??
Why do you need so many colours?? Most business emails are texts, maybe some graphics, but you will perfectly fit with a 65K colours screen.
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Well, what does the majority of the normal office people do with their PC's? They use it mostly for e-mail and word processing. Why do they have 24 or 32-bit screens for reading e-mail and producing/reading documents? Should they only have 16-bit screens?
I would say that it's a normal evolution rather than a need.
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mario2002
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Huh,you write a lot buddy,can you repeat that ;-)
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alexlt
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On 2005-10-17 10:55:36, orange wrote:
Well, what does the majority of the normal office people do with their PC's? They use it mostly for e-mail and word processing. Why do they have 24 or 32-bit screens for reading e-mail and producing/reading documents? Should they only have 16-bit screens?
I would say that it's a normal evolution rather than a need. |
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Is there a PC screen with 16-bit colours?? 
I understand that this is a normal evolution for a "normal" phone, but these are Enterprise phones targeted for business users and they don't need to put a 16 million colour screen, with a 65K will do well their job. In an imaging phone I would give a very good opinion, but in an business phone you don't need 16 million because it was made for work, not entertainment
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On 2005-10-17 10:55:36, orange wrote:
WOW! I'm not quite sure how your post relates to the quoting. Care to explain a bit?
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Well, what does the majority of the normal office people do with their PC's? They use it mostly for e-mail and word processing. Why do they have 24 or 32-bit screens for reading e-mail and producing/reading documents? Should they only have 16-bit screens?
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My post above clearly relates to your statment above mine, but you just stated it. "normal office people do with their pcs" is formating documents, emails, reports, viewing pictures hence teh 24/32bit screens on small real estate make it better/easier on your eyes. My post above was to point out that even though the lack of a camera the E61 still leaves most business' not able to employ it as a VoiP/wireless corporate email/PBX solution. Because of the expandable memory is a risk to corporate security |
orange
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On 2005-10-21 05:07:44, Prom1 wrote:
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On 2005-10-17 10:55:36, orange wrote:
WOW! I'm not quite sure how your post relates to the quoting. Care to explain a bit?
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Well, what does the majority of the normal office people do with their PC's? They use it mostly for e-mail and word processing. Why do they have 24 or 32-bit screens for reading e-mail and producing/reading documents? Should they only have 16-bit screens?
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My post above clearly relates to your statment above mine, but you just stated it. "normal office people do with their pcs" is formating documents, emails, reports, viewing pictures hence teh 24/32bit screens on small real estate make it better/easier on your eyes.
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As I said, that's natural evolution. Why anybody would want to go a couple of years back in development? But in this forum it comes down to the fact that this is an SE (anti-Nokia) forum. If Nokia has something before SE, it's always bad and if SE has something before it's a huge advantage over Nokia. And even though those E-series are targeted to the enterprises it doens't mean that all the multimedia features are not there. The only thing that's not there is the camera. Even though E70 has that too.
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On 2005-10-21 05:07:44, Prom1 wrote:
My post above was to point out that even though the lack of a camera the E61 still leaves most business' not able to employ it as a VoiP/wireless corporate email/PBX solution. Because of the expandable memory is a risk to corporate security
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I wouldn't call IBM "a most of the business". I also know several companies that don't allow memory cards usage in the mobile devices in their premises, but having a memory card slot in the device is not an issue. |
(sc)chronos
Joined: Feb 07, 2004
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nokia has announced three new phones with some features which the other two has not. what is nokia trying to do? look at e61. a phone whose only feature is sending e-mails, and some morons try to compare this copy designs with p990. this Eseries will be a total fiasco like the Nseries. |
mib1800
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(sc)chronos:
statistically speaking Nokia sells 20 times more smartphones than SE. For overall total Nokia sells 5 times more phones than SE.
Nokia E-Series are smartphones
SE P series are smartphones.
Go figure (if it is not beyond ability to do so) :lol 
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(sc)chronos
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i know nokia sells 20 times more because there are always some blokia zealots like you who worship to every stupid phone nokia announces. tell me, who is going to buy e61, a brick whose only feature is to send e-mails? businessmen? if they're businessman, they would buy the P series...
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mib1800
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(sc)chronos:
Huge majority bought Nokia smartphone therefore majority speaks, isnt it. Majority of the world thinks Osama is fanatical zealot. Only a few think he is a saviour. Which one are you? Sore-loser.
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Dr.pratikB.
Joined: May 03, 2005
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what is your problem with nokia.you guys simply cant accept the truth.always bashing the nokia.i have read quite a bit about new p series.it's not up to expectations of many.forget.some guys cant understand.what is the price for E 70.it's my next phone for sure. |
(sc)chronos
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On 2005-10-23 19:29:00, Dr.pratikB. wrote:
what is your problem with nokia.you guys simply cant accept the truth.always bashing the nokia.i have read quite a bit about new p series.it's not up to expectations of many.forget.some guys cant understand.what is the price for E 70.it's my next phone for sure.
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yes, p990 does not fullfill the expectations, as no phone will ever do. in fact it will have a serious problem which will be the lack of software. but it is the best in overall features. also, no one can produce a perfect phone. if you dont mind the price, the best option is p990. you must accept this. |
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