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Posted: 2014-11-15 10:41
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On 2014-11-15 10:23:06, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
Maybe there are really 2 version of the z4. One standard with 1080p and 3gb ram and a premium one with 2k display and 4gb ram.



Z line is already supposed to be premium
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Posted: 2014-11-15 11:26
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I hope it will be 5.5 and QHD not to mention the other spec.s like 4GB ram, 32GB ROM as a minimum
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Posted: 2014-11-15 11:49
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this thread has become nothing but a bullshit ..
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Posted: 2014-11-15 15:49
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On 2014-11-15 10:23:06, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
Maybe there are really 2 version of the z4. One standard with 1080p and 3gb ram and a premium one with 2k display and 4gb ram.


This sounds plausible to me.

If Sony is to focus more on high-end premium phones then it wouldn't surprise me if they expanded the Z4 range with more variants. They would need to differentiate each device strongly in order to avoid confusion.
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Posted: 2014-11-15 16:12
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Probably still choosing between prototypes, though I'd like the variant idea.
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Posted: 2014-11-15 17:07
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Everything from the z3x rumors sounded amazing and current z4 rumors are just lame as hell, boring 6 month upgrade cycle. Sony should really consider getting serious into phablet in h1 and standard phones in h2. That way the wont be directly compete with Samsung s and note release. They can also differentiate the two 2 flagship a year. Samsung own a huge chunck of the phablet, but when customers shop for new phablet in h1, the newer z3x like phablet that come out will looks more attractive as oppose to a note that came out last quater.
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Posted: 2014-11-15 17:21
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Sony, when will you learn?
variants with different display size and/or different resolution, etc. is a really stupid idea simply because if anyone wants sony flag that costs less, the best deal and always will be is to buy z3 (the previous flag) in half the price of z4. no brainer. what are they thinking? by that you also give the previous flag a really strong competitive market making the brand stronger. this is also why mid range phones are so shit of a deal.

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Posted: 2014-11-16 00:16
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On 2014-11-15 17:21:52, amirprog wrote:
Sony, when will you learn?
variants with different display size and/or different resolution, etc. is a really stupid idea simply because if anyone wants sony flag that costs less, the best deal and always will be is to buy z3 (the previous flag) in half the price of z4. no brainer. what are they thinking? by that you also give the previous flag a really strong competitive market making the brand stronger. this is also why mid range phones are so shit of a deal.




We don't know if that will actually happen. This is all speculation.
drsoran2
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Posted: 2014-11-16 12:03
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How likely do you think is it that Sony will introduce a waterproof compact Xperia with removable battery?

Would they feel pressured by Samsung since they're offering several waterproof phones with removable battery and the need to match them in this regard?
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Posted: 2014-11-16 12:53
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Sony have had a small-ish waterproof phone with a removable battery before with the Xperia ZR.
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Posted: 2014-11-16 13:02
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I know, but it is outdated (no open headset jack, specs of Xperia Z) and has only 8GB of internal memory and the options to move apps to SD are very limited, even with root (Link2SD needs extra partition and is buggy and can't move all, foldermount doesn't even recognize all apps...)

But why don't they do it anymore or would they in the future?

Waterproof + microSD + removable battery + current state of technology with around 4.7" display would be perfect!
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Posted: 2014-11-16 14:00
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To be honest, I wouldn't buy a waterproof phone with removable cover. I don't trust it enough for that. Not only, it allows you to have better designed phone, IMO, if you make it one piece.
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Posted: 2014-11-16 14:26
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I believe you would think differently about this when your Z1 battery is broken after 14 months and you have to back up everything, send it in for warranty repair, wait 14 days and then restore your backup instead of buying a new battery for a small price and change it within seconds.

The whole process of sending in is super annoying...

Besides, what shall I do in another 12-14 months if the battery is broken again and the warranty is over?

Also, there are waterproof and saltwater proof cameras for use in deep water with removable batteries. Would you trust them?
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Posted: 2014-11-16 15:09
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The same could be said for Apple and HTC as they both offer high end products without a removable battery, yet have no resistance to water or dust and with the iPhone having only a 12 month warranty repairs get costly in next to no time at all. I really don't see it being much of an issue, I've had my Z1 since September last year and not had a single hiccup plus the majority of failed batteries that I've come across in almost 10 years of working in the mobile retail industry is minimal, it's generally a component of the phone itself that fails rather than the battery.
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drsoran2
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Posted: 2014-11-16 16:13
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I have my Z1 also since last September and didn't even charge it that often, about every 2 days, and the severe battery problems started in October. Then you are lucky with your phone.

It's a different story with HTC and Apple. You can change the battery yourself without worrying about waterproofing since these phones are not waterproof to begin with.

With Sony if you change the battery yourself within warranty because it is faster, then your warranty is void. If you change it yourself after the warranty in order to save costs, then you shouldn't trust that your phone is still waterproof since it wasn't done by professionals. You have to treat your waterproof phone as not waterproof anymore to be safe which defeats the whole purpose of owning a waterproof phone to begin with.

I've hardly ever heard of major defects with phones which you couldn't fix yourself. Broken displays are mostly own stupidity and broken cpu, RAM and mainboard are very rare.

Which leaves the battery as major cause of defects.


You can turn it as much as you want, but non removable batteries are only good for one party: the seller, which why I' wondering if there ever will be another waterproof Sony phone with removable battery.
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