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Posted: 2013-09-08 14:58
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VA or IPS, but there is no way you can excuse the Z1's horrible screen quality in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa0w4fphCEE

I'm sorry, but a VA panel shouldn't have colour degradation of this magnitude. All the screens have the same background, yet the Z1's looks so washed out. Why? The way the colours wash out, contrast appears to decrease, and colours shift, is reminiscent of TN panels. The screen in that unit there, at least, is neither VA, nor IPS.

I hope for their own sake, they ship all consumer and review units with the proper high-quality VA panel, and these issues are only in prototypes. If they ship to consumers and reviewers with the shitty panel seen in this video, then reviewers are going to be justifiably merciless.

No phone that claims itself to be a flagship, should have a screen that bad, when compared to its competitors.


Also, it looks like the Z1 has no optical image stabilisation. That's a real disappointment. I was hoping that in a phone with such a beastly camera, they'd include at least some form of hardware image stabilisation.
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Posted: 2013-09-08 14:58
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]yer_embedded&v=-QkHh0W-b4A
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itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2013-09-08 15:04
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On 2013-09-08 14:05:49, CrownedAkuma wrote:
"Let’s tackle the screen first
It’s a really great screen. Sony have put the time and effort into it, and I put it amongst the best on the market. However, it’s not quite there still.
I would be over the moon with it had I not I put my OPPO Find 5 next to it. The viewing angles aren’t quite as good as the OPPO (although far better than the Z), and for ultimate crispness the Sony just loses out.
Considering that I rate the OPPO Find 5′s screen as the best I’ve ever used, I was setting the bar high. The Sony will, however, give the Samsung Galaxy S4 a run for its money, with only the extreme viewing angles letting it down."

Well it seems a good review I am so buying this beast


I think most "reviewers", and essentially most people, now are brainwashed into thinking that the viewing angle is a BIG factor in categorizing how good a display is that they instantly come to the conclusion that the display is of poor quality when the viewing angle is "not as good as most top smartphones".

And Sony really needs to change that wallpaper.

@XYZ I think it's been mentioned here that the IFA devices, or some, had an inferior display, then there are some that are really good.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2013-09-08 14:06 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-08 15:35
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpjBqpNNfQ
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see this. This one gt good quality. Not all has the same bad quality only some
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-09-08 14:35 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-08 15:37
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why aren't sony using IPS with triluminos? isn't IPS the highest quality of LCD's with also the best viewing angles?
there is always room for improvements.
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Posted: 2013-09-08 15:45
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It seems like people(usually the technopiles and fanboys) are prioritizing excellent viewing angles while downplaying the display quality at right angles, Am I the only remaining user here who looks at his smartphone screen perpendicular to his face?
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Posted: 2013-09-08 15:50
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I always look at my phone straight on too
Phone?? What phone??
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Posted: 2013-09-08 15:56
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On 2013-09-08 15:45:42, razec wrote:
It seems like people(usually the technopiles and fanboys) are prioritizing excellent viewing angles while downplaying the display quality at right angles, Am I the only remaining user here who looks at his smartphone screen perpendicular to his face?


well, some people don't want to hold their phone every time they want to check something small, like for example, newly received sms and some share photos and videos with few people. those are the reasons i hear for wanting better viewing angles. listen to pocketnow criticism about this (36:21): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1mSzQ2vwa0
not a deal breaker but there is always room for improvements...
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-09-08 15:00 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:03
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On 2013-09-08 15:50:51, Bonovox wrote:
I always look at my phone straight on too


You right, but you need around 45 degrees without color and contrast degradation... At SXZ orange color go to yellow instantly. Just set wallpaper with tiger skin. Remembrer comparison SXZ and SXZUltra. All here said "wow what a difference!" And after all same discuss. Just like Xperia TX and Xperia Z. It is insane. Just put Sony same screen as SXZ Ultra and no questions here.
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:25
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China is due for delivery tomorrow.

I"ll let you now what is going on with the retailing unit, in particular, the screen.
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:31
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On 2013-09-08 16:25:21, milukugiuniu wrote:
China is due for delivery tomorrow.

I"ll let you now what is going on with the retailing unit, in particular, the screen.


@milukugiuniu can you check too, the speaker's volume and quality?

Thanks
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:35
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On 2013-09-08 16:03:17, xenia wrote:

On 2013-09-08 15:50:51, Bonovox wrote:
I always look at my phone straight on too


You right, but you need around 45 degrees without color and contrast degradation... At SXZ orange color go to yellow instantly. Just set wallpaper with tiger skin. Remembrer comparison SXZ and SXZUltra. All here said "wow what a difference!" And after all same discuss. Just like Xperia TX and Xperia Z. It is insane. Just put Sony same screen as SXZ Ultra and no questions here.


Producing cell phone is not just a technical work, its a business. The manufacturer needs to balance the performance and cost. For Z1'instance, it's easy for Sony to use ISP. But as a result, the cost will be increased dramatically. So Sony takes another way to lower the cost and keep the selling price at a certain level(the same as XZ though the spec. is much more premium).

Yes,the screen has caused some public arguement. So it' too early to say Sony is doing right or wrong. Let' wait and see.
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:38
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On 2013-09-08 16:31:44, barbaroe wrote:

On 2013-09-08 16:25:21, milukugiuniu wrote:
China is due for delivery tomorrow.

I"ll let you now what is going on with the retailing unit, in particular, the screen.


@milukugiuniu can you check too, the speaker's volume and quality?

Thanks


Sure, I'll keep you posted.
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:46
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On 2013-09-08 15:45:42, razec wrote:
It seems like people(usually the technopiles and fanboys) are prioritizing excellent viewing angles while downplaying the display quality at right angles, Am I the only remaining user here who looks at his smartphone screen perpendicular to his face?



while I am not really too fussed about viewing angles! I can understand some people who do find it important...especially if you plan on showing people photos and videos on your phone then people would be looking at different viewing angles...and for a flagship with such a lovely camera I am sure there are many people here who would want to show people photos / videos on the their phones!
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Posted: 2013-09-08 16:47
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Why can't Sony just use a SLCD. I've always thought that Bravia or that X Engine thingy were just pure gimick. Just to lets believe that they were actually putting some TV technology into their mobile phones. If it happens that SLCD was there from the start...not a single viewing angle rant could be posted in here.
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