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oneofthose
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sorry to butt in, but maggster's been reading my mind or so it seems... you follow the news here in Ireland (they should be aware and sensible with such subject after centuries of northern ireland "troubles"...but they are not  )...well, you try to read /watch the news and they mix up taleban and al qaeda show some archive footage (probably not even islamabad) and I'm sitting here without a clue of what's happening! so:
how did it start? anyone, please?
thanks from "oneofthose"
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maggflodd
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Is this the "latest" then?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/[....]/world/asia/article2052360.ece
what'll happen to the women and children, and why am I thinking, "waco, texas"?
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$herry
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Well i have been following the whole thing closely so i will be happy to "enlighten" u ppl  here is a little summary:
The Mosque goes by the name of Lal Masjid meaning red mosque..two clerics of islam,maulana abdul aziz and maulana abdul rashid, are its custodians..they are extremists and rigid..and as QVGA said,they wanted to force islam upon ppl and make pakistan a state governed by the principles of islam..Pakistan already is..well kinda....so they began campaigns...first they attacked and threatened CD shop owners...then they attacked chinese massage parlours,labelling them brothels and kidnapping chinese workers...the govt thus positioned rangers and personnel around the mosque to limit their "militant" activities...this did not go down very well with the jerks inside and they threatened the govt of dire consequences,claiming they had 400 or so fully armed ppl who would fight till their deaths...the govt showed considerable restraint and trying negotiating,,,the govt proposed that all those ppl who would surrender and give up arms wuld be forgiven and granted amnesty
Following this, quite a few men and women surrendered..yes there were women too.,..with staffs as weapons LOl....well then there was a twist..one of the brothers,abdul aziz, was caught trying to escape amongst the women, clad in a Burqa, u know, a veil and all that stuff....it was learnt that the actual mastermind was a woman! wife of abdul aziz...mother of both bros was also inside and was quite sick,,govt repeatedly asked them to send the 85 year old lady out for treatment..but the greedy poopster abdul rashid kept her inside as protection,along with female sttudents and other ppl...there were rumours that there were actual militants from terrorist groups inside who were holidng everyone hostage but that is as yet un confirmed...Last night, negotiations reached a breakthrough when the govt promised abdul rashid safety of life and house arrest onyl if he surrendered..considered a breakthrough...but when i woke up in the mornign..the operation was underway! The govt had declared that they would kick butt at 1am..so now the fighting is going on...casualties on both sides...26 or 36 women and a coupla hapless civilians have been safely evacutaed.....I'll keep u posted on further updates!
Cheers..
This is reporter $herry signing off!
Byeee
Hope it helps
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maggflodd
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Dearest roving reporter,
FM - that was fast, furious and interesting! Gfy/gfm
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$herry
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HAHAHAHAHAHa...  Thanx a lot...the praise keeps me going! Luv ya all thank u...thank u very much!
(do i sound like i got an award)? 
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aatuif
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Are the ppl inside by their own will or are they hostage, i got conflicting reports...
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$herry
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The president is the one who announced action...the authorities were being very patient with those maulanas to avoid bloodshed...but they were unable to do so and the president announced the commencing of the operation....some people are hardcore militants and they are inside by choice,while others are ordinary religious students who want out but are being held hostage...
I agree,these maulanas are making a mockery of islam...One of the foremost rules of war,JIHAD, in Islam is that if the other side wants peace,u should readily oblige...wonder how the "authorities on religion" overlooked this simple commandment..
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shuja91
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For info about Lal masjid go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Masjid
For the troubles since last week go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Lal_Masjid_Operation
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aatuif
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So, one of the maulvis has been killed...
What's the latest...
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maggflodd
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Check out this Times article (and that quote at the top of the page! Wtf reporting is that! )
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/[....]/world/asia/article2054477.ece
edit: sorry, the top quote changes periodically:'earlier some nobody was quoted "fact is most terrorists are muslims"... "fact"? Splashed across the page! 
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On 2007-07-10 16:51:39, maggflodd wrote:
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i think we shouldn't discuss on those lines... 
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On 2007-07-10 17:50:00, aatuif wrote:
On 2007-07-10 16:51:39, maggflodd wrote:
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i think we shouldn't discuss on those lines...
true, sorry, BUT I was quite stunned opening Times homepage and bang!
Apologies, but the article itself ?
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$herry
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Ok ppl..Sherry is back with the latest from Lal masjid:
The other maulvi, Abdul Rashid, has been killed...his death has been confirmed...his last communication was in the form of an sms to a news channel, telling them that he is now left with only three of his close advisers...he had sent the remaining memebers of his family,including his wife and children, to his native village in order to save them....the lal masjid has now been taken over by the authorities..86 more people have been recovered, including women. The authorities hope to wrap up the whole episode within a few hours..the casualties are as yet unknown but at least a 100 of the militants have been killed...the identities of the remaining ppl in the mosque will be ascertained...if they are found innocent,they will be allowed to go...but militants will be detained...the last interview of the maulana is due to be aired in about 2 mins...just came online to fulfill my duties as a reporter, as appointed by maggflood now im gonna catch the interview and then proceed to tell u people about what (in a way) the maulana's last words were...
this is reporter $herry signing off...
May peace be on u. 
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oneofthose
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thanks sherry!
prompt service!
I'll check uk news at 7gmt - compare later with your report!
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$herry
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Waaahhhh  the electricity went kaput...F*ck the power station people
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