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The Danish Mohammad cartoon row - what do you think? |
joebmc
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It was a relpy to absinthebri last post. Just having a little fun... Its the weekend, woppie!
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absinthebri
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On 2006-02-11 11:44:47, amnesia wrote:
it's not spam when it's for a good cause.
You see, the way you act makes me think, if you dont respect my religion, why should I respect yours?
If you dont respect one man's cause why should he respect yours?
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So *you* decide what is spam by the value *you* put on it?
I do respect your religion. Do you respect my right to free speech?
Do you think I care whether you respect my religion? Should you disrespect my religion, it says a lot about you and nothing about my religion.
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Sammy_boy
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I still find it laughable that all these religions worship the SAME god, yet none of them get on? This is where I'd like to see all organised religion abolished, and for people to be spiritual rather than following the dogma and rhetoric of an organised religion, with so-called 'leaders' dictating to them how to worship their god and what to do with their lives, and I suspect in some regions, how to think.
I'm going to PM Masseur now to see about getting this locked before there are any arguments or upset, I think this has now been discussed to the point where we are repeating each other. 
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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goldenface
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I think its fantastic that the march is taking place. I hope it goes peacefully.
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Sammy_boy
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And before this is locked i'd like to say I'm glad that there is now an organised march against the extremists, let's hope this is the first of many 
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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scotsboyuk
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On 2006-02-11 11:36:34, amnesia wrote:
@scots, I'm sorry but sometimes I dont understand the words you use and I dont have time to dictionary.com the words because I'm rushing around. Can I ask that if there is a possiblity that a non-native speaker might not understand a word that you put a similar easier word next to it? (e.g. dichomy)
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Noted; I shall look to see what I can do about making my posts easier to understand. As you know I have a tendency to make rather long posts so it can be useful to use a word that shortens it down a bit. Unfortunately that means that sometimes one might use a word that is perhaps not terribly common. Thank you for the feedback.
@Sam
Not to niggle, but not all religions worship the same God. In fact some religions/philosophies do not worship any God at all.
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joebmc
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Yay, rid the world of extremists, all religious and non religious extremists!
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JK
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I dont think this thread shud be closed yet... Its still current world news... |
Sammy_boy
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@scotsboy - sorry, what I meant was that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all worship the same god
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Sammy_boy
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Good news, the mod I PM'd replied and would prefer to keep this open, especially to get feedback and opinions about this march today. So perhaps I was a bit premature asking for this to be closed! 
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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goldenface
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An organiser on Sky News has stated that todays march is a rally against intolerance of ALL minorities, faith and non-faith. It is also being beamed live on Al-Jazeera, showing that different faiths can thrive together. It is not an Anti west demonstration as previously stated.
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max_wedge
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brilliant stuff.
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upper
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On 2006-02-11 11:52:12, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2006-02-11 11:44:47, amnesia wrote:
it's not spam when it's for a good cause.
You see, the way you act makes me think, if you dont respect my religion, why should I respect yours?
If you dont respect one man's cause why should he respect yours?
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So *you* decide what is spam by the value *you* put on it?
I do respect your religion. Do you respect my right to free speech?
Do you think I care whether you respect my religion? Should you disrespect my religion, it says a lot about you and nothing about my religion.
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absinthebri, sorry but i have to say that your very ignorrant, let me tell you somethink and to others out there who abuses the free speech system.
1st of all there is no such thing as freedom of speech when you know it will hurt millions of people around the world, then that freedom of speech stops there, know one has the right to offend anyones religion, nor there families nor anythink that will hurt them personally.
2nd bcoz there is a freedom of speech, does that give me the right to abuse it? so can i say that your mum is so and so? or can i say a gay jewish man is a christians man best friend? know of course not that does not give me the right. for you people out there freedom of speech means saying what ever you want, but without hurting anyone religions or personally. because remember that the muslims take there religion very seriously, and a muslim (islam) means submiting so he is meant to live his life according to the religion (islam).
personally this is a war against islam, a war against ALLAH, no differents from the crusaders which killed many people many many yrs ago, its a continuiose war. that unfortunately will not end.
i know for a fact that the queen of denmark have authorised this cartoon, to make the muslims angry around the world, so to show the danish people and others that islam is a religion of violence, it has been reported that the reason behind AS WELL is because ISLAM is the fastest growing religion in the world espeacially USA, there is an increasing rate of people in denmark embracing ISLAM. so guys dont be fooled, i guess the queen of denmark thinks that she has succeded her mission, but how wrong is she. i mean g. bush have tried it, lol it didnt worked, because the number of americans converted after the 9/11 was huge, apparently the quran (BIBLE) in NY city have been sold out right across NY, bcoz at that time the americans wanted know the reason why the muslims are like this, so when they made there own research about islam then they started seeing the beauty of it. i guess you guys can say it backed fired on wacky bush.
Islam will never be defeated like the other nations.
So guys just think about whats happening around the world, and start to question yourselfs if its a western conspiracy against islam, remember the western world they PLAN, PLOT AND CONQUER this was there moto, and its still active today, you dont believe me? how do you think the middle east was made lol? and what do you think USA (BUSH ADMINISTRATION) is doing also?
does anyone agree with me about the term of freedom of speech? and that how it should be used?
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absinthebri
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On 2006-02-11 18:22:02, upper wrote:
absinthebri, sorry but i have to say that your very ignorrant
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And I'm happy we live in a society that recognises your right to say that.
God does not exist.
I am free to say that.
And as God doesn't exist, you must be deluded for believing in him.
Of course, you're free to offer any contrary evidence, to PROOVE the existence of God, if you have it.
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upper
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On 2006-02-11 18:31:16, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2006-02-11 18:22:02, upper wrote:
absinthebri, sorry but i have to say that your very ignorrant
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And I'm happy we live in a society that recognises your right to say that.
God does not exist.
I am free to say that.
And as God doesn't exist, you must be deluded for believing in him.
Of course, you're free to offer any contrary evidence, to PROOVE the existence of God, if you have it.
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you see, you still havent learnt anythink yet, remember its not good to be ignorrant, screw pride admit your wrong, because again your being personal, bcoz your talking about me, me believing in somethink and your saying somethink, which you know of course i will not like, soo basically your causing hatred amongst us, did you know that? another word religious hatred, and im sure that you know you can be arrested for stirring hatred. just think, and throw pride out the window, alot of people make misstakes cause of it.
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