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Tsepz_GP
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SAY WHAT!!!? No equalizer? Im sorry but ive always preferred the built-in Music Player in all my phones. This makes absolutely no sense. EVERY S60 since the freakin N70 has had an equaliser! Who the f*** do SE think they are coming in 1stly with no 3.5mm jack nor a EQ??? Its a 2009-2010 Multimedia Phone for goodness sake, these things are standard on low end S60s such as 5320xm and mid range 5800xm. Il never understand SE, they always mess up something that seems to be good. Even the W800 had an EQ. 
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Dups!
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On 2009-08-09 09:01:03, GUCCI.011 wrote:
... Il never understand SE, they always mess up something that seems to be good. Even the W800 had an EQ.
Trust SE to screw something up that's for sure!
I hope it's not true. Now that I think of it, my P910i and P1i don't have equalizers.
What's wrong with SE?
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There's a difference between equalizer presets and an equalizer.
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On 2009-08-08 16:36:47, Dups! wrote:
Firstly, you need to read posts carefully before jumping on someone's throat!
Secondly, there is nowhere in my post where I wrote S60 was or is pathetic!
Now, if you paid attention you would realise that I wrote 'S60 touch'.
For starters, this is an Os that isn't touch optimized and was largely pushed towards this direction by the likes of Apple. As a touch os it does badly. Then there's the issue of S60 TOUCH being ram intensive.
Both the N97 and 5800 were given a meagre 128MB and that leaves them with less ram after boot- think multitask and speed. Samsung have realized this hence they gave the Omnia HD 256MB of ram.
When you compare S60 TOUCH with the likes of the Iphone, Android and Palm's Os it looses badly. S60 TOUCH was meant to fill the gap before a real touch ui from Symbian comes into effect. Nokia noted that they couldn't compete with S60 as it was that is why they decided on it being open source.
The beauty of a touch interface is its user experience and in that area S60 TOUCH is pathetic. Of course if you haven't tried anything else and stuck with it it is the best there is.
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quite the contrary, i have other handsets apart from nokia's that are touch..but i still enjoy 5th edition, because i find it easy to use. In YOUR opinion its pathetic...i have used the iphone 3G. My partner had one before upgrading to the hd. . .the iphone is just a nice ui, and browser. Thats it. Overated and very much overpriced. |
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Any more news on the release date of this? and if o2 will have it. |
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On 2009-08-08 09:08:58, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Prom1
Thanx a lot for the info,very interesting post.
Razec
??? The TI OMAP3430 is able to encode and decode HD though, thats why SAMSUNG were able to improve the sound quality in video recording to AAC format in a firmware update, the reason why they had it as AMR im sure was to reduce memory consumption, cause im sure recording in full HD takes a chunk of memory, especialy if you have just a 8gb or 16gb memory card/mass storage, otherwise the OmniaHD can handle HD just fine. When looking at all these CPUs would you REALY be able to tell whether your phone runs on a TI OMAP3430, Qualcomm Snapdragon OR Hummingbird??? I think it will realy depend on how well the software/OS of the phone is optimized to work with the CPU. Just look at the N97, its realy fast and able to handle multiple tasks plus the widgets without a slowdown yet it runs on a little Freescale cpu at 434MHz. The OmniaHD is more than fast enough at 600MHz, i think they could actualy bring that down to 450MHz and it would still be fast, MAYBE a better GPU would be nice but like i said would you REALY be able to tell eg. If it had the Snapdragon?
You didn't read my post carefully did you? then read this:
OMAP 3430:
* New OMAP™ 3 architecture combines mobile entertainment with high performance productivity applications
* Industry's first processor with advanced Superscalar ARM® Cortex™-A8 RISC core enabling 3x gain in performance
* Industry's first processor designed in 65-nm CMOS process technology adds processing performance
* IVA™ 2+ (Image Video Audio) accelerator enables multi-standard (MPEG4, WMV9, RealVideo, H263, H264) encode/decode at D1 (720x480 pixels) 30 fps
* Integrated image signal processor (ISP) for faster, higher-quality image capture and lower system cost
* Flexible system support
o Composite and S-video TV output
o XGA (1024x768 pixels), 16M-color (24-bit definition) display support
o Flatlink™ 3G-compliant serial display and parallel display support
o High Speed USB2.0 On-The-Go support
* Seamless connectivity to Hard Disk Drive (HDD) devices for mass storage
* Leverages SmartReflex™ technologies for advanced power reduction
* M-shield™ mobile security enhanced with ARM TrustZone™ support
* Software-compatible with OMAP™ 2 processors
* HLOS support for customizable interface
* Support for OpenGL ES 1.1
and because Samsung tries hard to push HD video encoding with omniaHD this is what happened:
Main disadvantages:
* No xenon flash
* No camera lens cover
* Sluggish browsing in the image gallery
* HD video recording sometimes drops below 24fps or duplicates frames to equal 24
* Samsung Mobile Navigator doesn't come with any maps or voice-guided navigation license
* No smart dialing
* Touch web browser zooming needs tweaking
* Somewhat limited 3rd party software availability
* No office document editing (without a paid upgrade)
You can argue with me the things like firmware updates that improves the audio format to AAC but you get what? duplicating frames? unstable framerates? why can't we get the real HD at H.264 format? its because the hardware is simply incapable of doing so.
Symbians dont need such high clockrates, i shake my head when i see 1GHz CPUs on a phone, its simply not necessary,atleast not a Symbian phone,but anyway thats just my opinion.
I'm pretty tired reading this argument all around. on GSMArena Symbian fans are saying they dont need 1Ghz, up until Samsung released 1Ghz hummingbird CPU and was confirmed to support symbian platform, then they hypocritically screams with joy and then later on bashes iPhone fans because they don't have 1Ghz.
And you're quite right, I may not be able to tell if the CPU is hummingbird or snapdragon but i can tell if the mobile phone hardware can deliver or not. this is the same philosophy that SAMSUNG has done to make people believe that OmniaHD is capable of true HD video recording because people don't know that it has OMAP3 and its CPU is not capable for HD recording.
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that TI OMAP3430 is capable of running up to 1Ghz. Also announcing the Hummingbird cpu is not the same as releasing it.
As time passed so that we all reflect on shipped products being used more & more by end users, I'll have to agree with Razec's last post.
S60 5th Edition is a serious resource hog. I still have faith that Symbian^2 when hardened by end of this year will be compatible for OmniaHD, N97, and 5800 to improve performance. That is if the manufacturers support the upgrade on those devices. Also note that Symbian^3 should be functionally complete by that same time that Symbiain^2 gets hardened.
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On 2009-08-06 16:49:50, se_dude wrote:
August 31st...Too late? Are you on drugs??
The N97 sells for 500 pounds in the UK. It is million times better and is 40 pound more costly. Gawd!!
Hi se_dude
Lets see if actually arrives on time shall we? 
As for the N97, my personal 5800XM is not far short of it in terms of function and usability and that only costs about £160 PAYG!!! (plus it does not creak or need the back modifying like every single expensive pseries phone I ever owned!)plus they bounce rather nicely when dropped with no visual damage to metal frames! I feel the N97 is way over priced as well as rather poorly made at present (plastic hinges I ask you how long will they last!) personally I find the slide out keyboard is a bit silly, when you can have a slimmer device with a virtual Qwerty for much less hard earned cash.
I am NOT really anti  or Nokia I had owned every one of the P series and the symbian W series including and I still have a company W960i the best phone ever made in my humble opinion, nothing comes close for high speed hand written note taking, which is what I mainly use it for I don't even have to look at the screen to get near perfect results, I will have to buy some spare ones for future use as the handwriting function in S60v5 is dire! unless third party application writers get cracking please! and my IF my 5800XM had the UIQ3 handwriting function it would be perfect.
but I am 100% against being messed about and ripped off by phone companies lkie who announce new products only for them to arrive too late and incomplete, neither am I interested in the shrieking of the silly adolescent "fan boys" here who delight in taking any criticism of personally seemingly without considering whey we buy telephones! (Not a pop at you BTW)
I simply want a phone that "does what it says on the tin" at a reasonable price WITHOUT having to re flash my firmware four times a year just to make the damn thing do what it is supposed to do
The video reviews of the Satio I have seen so far show an OK looking but very sluggish device that 12 mp cam aside is not much better than anything else out there, but at £560 FORGET IT.
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2009-08-10 13:18 ] I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
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One point I would like to raise is the S60v5 music player on my 5800XM it has no Sleep function or bookmark function both handy if like me your an audio book fan. The Walkman player on my w96oi has both another reason to keep it going! IF has removed the equaliser that comes with the 5800xm music player then I would have to say that is a backward step but if they have included a sleep timer and bookmark function I would happily forgo the Equaliser.
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From the latest reviews, the Satio is looking rather quick and smooth running! It's definitely changed a whole lot when we were seeing the reviews of the Idou. |
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Geezz, by just reading your posts, guys...makes me not to mess up with you cause you're all "smart". Even mobile companies surely can't keep up with you.
For a change, why not make you own phone...and called it "iMADE,myOWN" kind of a brand
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Tsepz_GP
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Razec
 cant believe i missed those, thanx for the info, i do see what you mean now. So we basicaly still dont have a smartphone that encodes/decodes full HD? 
For me personaly though, as long as Satio plays videos in 640x360 and 640x480 at 30fps full time il be happy,but it would be nice to be able to just drag and drop HD vids into your smartphone and watch without a single glitch.
As for the clockspeeds of 1GHz and those punks who flood the GSMArena comments i just ignore them. I just dont see why Symbian S60 right now will need 1GHz, maybe Symbian^2 etc. . . .will but i think 600mhz is enough, they must just get a GPU that can actualy do HD.
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On 2009-08-10 07:56:55, Prom1 wrote:
that TI OMAP3430 is capable of running up to 1Ghz. Also announcing the Hummingbird cpu is not the same as releasing it.
As time passed so that we all reflect on shipped products being used more & more by end users, I'll have to agree with Razec's last post.
S60 5th Edition is a serious resource hog. I still have faith that Symbian^2 when hardened by end of this year will be compatible for OmniaHD, N97, and 5800 to improve performance. That is if the manufacturers support the upgrade on those devices. Also note that Symbian^3 should be functionally complete by that same time that Symbiain^2 gets hardened.
Is'nt the 3440 for HD ? http://focus.ti.com/general/d[....]gationId=12643&templateId=6123
http://focus.ti.com/general/d[....]gationId=12796&contentId=36505
I still don't wanna buy it even with sleeping mode and bookmarks if equalisers presets aren't back in the retail unit 
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On 2009-08-10 20:05:39, KU wrote:
On 2009-08-10 07:56:55, Prom1 wrote:
that TI OMAP3430 is capable of running up to 1Ghz. Also announcing the Hummingbird cpu is not the same as releasing it.
As time passed so that we all reflect on shipped products being used more & more by end users, I'll have to agree with Razec's last post.
S60 5th Edition is a serious resource hog. I still have faith that Symbian^2 when hardened by end of this year will be compatible for OmniaHD, N97, and 5800 to improve performance. That is if the manufacturers support the upgrade on those devices. Also note that Symbian^3 should be functionally complete by that same time that Symbiain^2 gets hardened.
Is'nt the 3440 for HD ? http://focus.ti.com/general/d[....]gationId=12643&templateId=6123
http://focus.ti.com/general/d[....]gationId=12796&contentId=36505
I still don't wanna buy it even with sleeping mode and bookmarks if equalisers presets aren't back in the retail unit
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2009-08-10 19:10 ]
I stand corrected. Great find & thank you.
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On 2009-08-09 14:21:51, p900 lover wrote:
Any more news on the release date of this? and if o2 will have it.
I doubt it. O2 are far too in love with the iPhone to have any higher spec phone than it on their network. They dont wanna p**s Apple off and lose their exclusivity deal over it. I was promised a N97 by O2 when it was released, so i waited a further 8 months to be told they definitely wouldnt carry that or the i8910 HD.
So if you're interested in SE's 12mp offering, you'd probably need to get it from Vodafraud, or heavily branded by Orange.
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