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tonchy
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more screenshots from the panels courtesy of mizzle
http://blog.se-nse.net/2008/02/12/a-look-at-xperia/
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Tenten
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Hi guys.
Are there any good examples of those type of sliders that actually succeeded in the market. I can't recall any.
Maybe this one could be it?
It's not a "WOW" though.. frankly speaking. |
rafithemsngr
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does any information about its processor |
anonymuser
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On 2008-02-12 06:47:57, Tenten wrote:
Hi guys.
Are there any good examples of those type of sliders that actually succeeded in the market. I can't recall any.
The HTC Wizard, HTC Magician (both sold under various other names), HTC Tytn, HTC Tytn II... all WinMo phones with a similar form factor, and all very successful (out in the non-SE world).
Maybe this one could be it?
It's not a "WOW" though.. frankly speaking.
If you compare the size of this with any of those other phones I've mentioned, then you can see the WOW immediately. It's a very good size for a full Windows Mobile Professional device with keyboard. On top of that you've got a very high quality screen, and a promise of high performance on video etc - making it a class-leading device. If they get this out in the middle of next quarter, it will be *the* Windows phone to have, I reckon.
By the way, people are trying to make some issue out of the memory size on this phone - make no mistake, 128mb operating memory is ample for a WM6 phone. Of course you could have more, at the expense of battery life, but it would serve very little purpose. The Tytn II has 128mb (it's one of the first WM6 handsets to go over 64mb) and you won't find anyone complaining about that - it's more than enough to run anything you like with no problems whatsoever. The 512mb flash memory is also perfectly ample - twice that of the Tytn II, and more than enough to install all the apps you're likely to want. Anything else you'll put on microSD - why wouldn't you? By the time this comes out, a 16gb card will be cheap as chips - this isn't memory stick prices remember - so you'll have all the storage you need on that. I wouldn't be surprised if they bundled a reasonable size card, but I don't think anyone needs to be too upset if they don't.
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t0t0_b0y
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I think if X1 was a dual slider phone (slide up to reveal the numeric keypad, slide to the right to reveal the arc keyboard) that would have been more interesting.. Agree, anyone? |
RandomCarpet
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nope, that would have made the device too fragile (easy to break) IMO. |
prototype_bo
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i'm regaining my faith in SE.
no one can deny that lately (last 3 months), things weren't going as the fans aspire them to be. i, among many others, just stated the level of frustration because we needed new better models.
X1, is my next phone.
the main competitor is the e90. and why does the X1 outrun it? because touch screen offers a good degree of control freedom. something that the e90 lacks. |
Dogmann
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Hi all
Well if anyone wants to see how the X1 Screen will look go check out a Toshiba Portege G90O that you will find has the same screen and processor by the looks of it.
"The Toshiba G900 Pocket PC is a tri-band 3G enabled PDA with a full keyboard, powerful 520Mhz processor and a stunning, high resolution 3" WVGA display. The quality of the 3 inch wide screen is simply breathtaking and gives you the best available mobile Internet experience"
and also has
" Main display dimensions (diagonal inches) 3.0"
• Main display resolution (X x Y pixels) 800 x 480"
So the X1 isn't anything really new other than the changed slider for the keyboard and this 9 Panels interface for shortcuts all the rest of the tech is alreday there in WM Devices and Toshiba have two new follow up models due for release as well. The Windows Mobile devcie market is crowded with manufacturers and devcies.
Personally i would rather of seen SE dump the Nexperia chip and get UIQ right especially as they bought UIQ just a year ago even though they've now sold half to Motorola. SE is UIQ and was what made it unique was it was the only touchscreen Symbian OS to date. Who knows maybe tomorrow SE will suprise and announce a fully specified UIQ version but supporting your direct competition seems a strange thing to do IMO.
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On 2008-02-12 09:02:38, Dogmann wrote:
So the X1 isn't anything really new other than the changed slider for the keyboard and this 9 Panels interface for shortcuts all the rest of the tech is alreday there in WM Devices and Toshiba have two new follow up models due for release as well. The Windows Mobile devcie market is crowded with manufacturers and devcies.
Personally i would rather of seen SE dump the Nexperia chip and get UIQ right especially as they bought UIQ just a year ago even though they've now sold half to Motorola. SE is UIQ and was what made it unique was it was the only touchscreen Symbian OS to date. Who knows maybe tomorrow SE will suprise and announce a fully specified UIQ version but supporting your direct competition seems a strange thing to do IMO.
Marc
Don't forget, HSUPA is also making its debut with X1, so "nothing new" isn't exactly accurate, and I'm sure their not giving away the other stuff up their sleeve since it is at least 9 months away from completion. Hopefuly it is released before it becomes obsolete since this is their make or break in the smartphone game IMO. I agree that they should've kept on developing UIQ but I guess it is a purely strategic decision as I don't think it makes sense either. Perhaps they truly wanted the X1 to be a breath of fresh air rather than be stuck again with an underdeveloped platform and ruin the whole experience, perhaps it would be implemented in the next Xperia models or even X1 itself when and if they have perfected the next UIQ version. I don't think they are optimistic in getting a fully functional and bugless UIQ platform by the end of the last quarter, and time is of the essence for SE as we speak.
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i highly doubt that SE will launch a Pnext model tomorrow... |
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On 2008-02-12 09:02:38, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all
Well if anyone wants to see how the X1 Screen will look go check out a Toshiba Portege G900 that you will find has the same screen and processor by the looks of it.
Nice try, but compare the size of these devices - the X1:
Size: 110 x 53 x 16.7 mm
Weight: 145 grams
And the Toshiba:
Size: 119 x 61 x 21.5 mm
Weight: 196 grams
In short, the Toshiba is a MASSIVE and frankly quite ugly brick compared to the SE - there's no competition there.
Personally i would rather of seen SE dump the Nexperia chip and get UIQ right especially as they bought UIQ just a year ago even though they've now sold half to Motorola. SE is UIQ and was what made it unique was it was the only touchscreen Symbian OS to date.
They're using UIQ in lower end devices now (G series), and they will be announcing a new P series tomorrow. I won't be buying it, but SE will still be getting my money 
Who knows maybe tomorrow SE will suprise and announce a fully specified UIQ version but supporting your direct competition seems a strange thing to do IMO.
It's a very sensible move - they're bringing some quality and style to the Winmo market that they can take a lead on, and at the same time Winmo gives them a level of compatibility and OS acceptance that they know UIQ has long since lost. UIQ can still be a good, funky, consumer UI - but WM is best for business, both now and in the future. SE are just being realistic - no variant of Symbian is going to threaten WM in its proven markets now - sad but true.
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prototype_bo
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just a question.
what is the difference between GPS and aGPS ??
does the X1 have a GPS hardware module embedded inside? does it work normally like any other GPS nav device?
thanks for your reply ( in advance ) |
Dogmann
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I don't know but did you miss the bit where i said that Toshiba alreday have two follow up models in the pipeline, sorry i am not into WM but i would be surprised if they don't have HUSPA and if expected release is 9 months that's a life time in Mobile technology. Even Nokia's Touch UI should be with us by then and who knows what that will bring. The thing with SE is when they announce something it is top spec but by the time they release it, it always seems to have been surpassed now a days it never used to be that way but is now. Also do any Networks even support HSUPA yet?
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Nanu
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What bugs me is when asked if it is normal for  to announce so long before release 's answer was in the case of the X1 it is to allow developers enough time to develop app's before it's release, so does that mean they have redesigned WM6 so much it won't run the thousands of app's out there or do think WM is a new technology all together or do the apps need tweaking to run in the 9 panels?? 
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-02-12 09:45:56, prototype_bo wrote:
just a question.
what is the difference between GPS and aGPS ??
does the X1 have a GPS hardware module embedded inside? does it work normally like any other GPS nav device?
thanks for your reply ( in advance )
aGPS is real GPS, but it also relies on other available sources of information to help speed itself up and decrease start up and loading times. It still uses satellites, etc as usual, as well. There are better explanations around somewhere, I read them earlier today.
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