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gareb
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Does it really matter which one is the capt' as long as England dont win anything?
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Xugaa
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^ o_O
Why's that?
Just curious for a reason young Gareb...
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gareb
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OK lets face it. You had a great coach from Sweden who only lost a couple of games during his time. BUT he didn't win any thing at all with England. Your players perhaps aint so good as you think. Ballack better than Lampard. Lehmann better than Robinson and so on. I dont dislike England at all just seein' problems ahead if you dont put in some new players fast. And beleive me that Wayne Rooney aint good on a summer turf like he is on muddy english turf in the middle of november. Finally he must learn to shut up and be polite. Hope that you aint sorry but it's only a game.
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Xugaa
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Yeah ok, we are all entitled to our opinion and I shall respect that.
But its probably just the way you put it but "as long as England don't win anything" is telling me that you dislike England and don't respect their right to win anything, a right that all teams should have...?
Muddy turf, in England? lol, we have great turfs lol  we do.
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gareb
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@Xugaa
No I dont dislike England at all. But facts are facts and England dont got a good record in the WC. And still England's one of the major nations in soccer. The team which I personally dislike is Italy. OK they're good but they always got some cheap free kicks and so on. They always play on the result in the match like 1-0 and still complain if other teams does. Finally here's my opion 'bout the Ronaldo. If MU kicks him now after the loss so is it exactly like the italian club Perguia did after that South Korean player was fired back in 2002. I just dont like that at all 'cause the players are playin' in their national teams and should support their nations first in the WC not their clubs. Hope you got a better tournament the next time.
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Xugaa
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Yeah, well Rooney and Ronaldo are in quite a war now and it seems that Manchester United will need to make a choice about who they'd rather keep if this "war" doesn't end. Both were wrong in a way, Rooney for the harsh foul and push, Ronaldo for the unprofessional and actually against the rules nagging to the referee to get Rooney sent off, not something you'd expect with two what you'd think were most of the time good team mates, but obviously not.
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JK
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Rooney and Ronaldo are cool with what happen, its your tabloids that are changing the entire story!!
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slattery69
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ronaldo wont be at man u next season, not because of rooney but because he wants a big money move to real madrid. i wouldnt be surprised if part of the ronaldos reaction to rooney was to help make the move possible. if i was man u and real offered 20m i take it in a heartbeat he s a half decent player but still doesnt know when to pass or when to shoot , his decision making is very poor and it hasnt improved whislt at man u so i d take the money and get a player who is nt just a cirus act.
as for england they are grossly overrated by the press and fans, the biggest problem is how to get the best out of the players and gerrard and lampard in particular.
both are great for there club but if you look at the formations at there club both are given free roles and both have 2 defensive minded players doing the dirty work on there behalf -liverpool alonso and sissoko/chelsea- makalele and essian
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Xugaa
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Problem is Ronaldo keeps saying he wants to move to Real Madrid, but Real Madrid might not want him. Also if there is some hate flowing around Beckham might not want him there either and I doubt Real Madrid will want to decide between the two, even if it might save on quite a sum of money...
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slattery69
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madrid want him well the gentleman who won the election wanted him and he was part of his election campagin.
since beckham only has a year to eighteen months left on his contract and madrid havent offered him a new one let he may not be there anyway.
also spanish football would be more suitable to ronaldos style of play not as quick or physical as the premier league and been phsyical is definatly not part of his game |
Xugaa
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But then Madrid love having Beckham I think, even if they could save a few pennies by getting rid of the highest payed footballer in the world lol.
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slattery69
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they do but football on the continent is slighly different to over in england. in england the managers tend to pick player they wish to sign and build a team.
often in spain etc the chairmen of the club decided which players to buy and tell the coach who he has to work with and its his job to sort it out.
i see no reason why they couldnt be in the same team at the end of the day im sure many people dont like all there team mates.
bit like work or school you dont like everyone your with you just put up with them as your all there doing the same thing. no reason why football would be any different.
i think it was sheringham and cole would couldnt stand the site of each other they never spoke to each other yet the won a treble together so i dont think players need to be friends to get the best out of them |
JK
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BERLIN, July 3 (Reuters) - Portugal's Cristiano Ronaldo said on Monday there was no animosity between him and Wayne Rooney despite the furore over the winger's actions when the England forward was red carded in their World Cup quarter-final.
"There is no problem at all between me and Rooney," Ronaldo told the website of the Gestifute agency, which represents him. "At the end of the game, we exchanged a series of text messages just as we had on the day before.
"This reinforces that I have a fine relationship with Rooney. Between the two of us, everything is clear," added Ronaldo who plays with Rooney at Manchester United.
In the second half of Saturday's match with England, Ronaldo rushed 40 metres to the referee, apparently to demand a card for Rooney who had battled his way through two players and trod on Ricardo Carvalho's groin as he tried to disentangle himself.
Rooney was sent off by Argentine referee Horacio Elizondo and Ronaldo was captured by TV cameras winking at his bench as the England forward walked off the pitch.
"I complained to the referee about the foul but I didn't ask for a red card," the Portugal winger said after the match.
"How is it possible that I would help to get him sent off? I am not the referee with the power to send off anyone I want, nor do I have the ability to convince him to show cards," he added on Monday.
"The referee produced the red card because he thought that he had to, and my participation in that was absolutely zero."
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Ronaldo had also feigned a head-butt towards Rooney seconds before the match kicked off as he was walking past his club mate to take up his position on the left wing.
British media reported on Monday that the England forward was furious with Ronaldo and attempted to charge into Portugal's dressing room to confront the winger after the match.
But Ronaldo said Rooney had told him to ignore the English press saying "they only want to stir things up".
"Statements have appeared as if they were from him, saying that he didn't want to play with me in Manchester," said Ronaldo. "That's not what he wants. Of course he wants to (play with me). This is absolutely false, he said so himself..."
"In fact, he didn't just send me congratulations for going forward in the World Cup, he also told me we have a great team, and if we carry on as we have, we will get a long way. He wasn't angry with me, or about anything that happened."
Ronaldo, who faced England after recovering from a thigh injury inflicted by a high tackle in the second-round match with Netherlands, is still having ice treatment on the leg but says he will be ready for Wednesday's semi-final in Munich. |
Xugaa
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"In the second half of Saturday's match with England, Ronaldo rushed 40 metres to the referee, apparently to demand a card for Rooney who had battled his way through two players and trod on Ricardo Carvalho's groin as he tried to disentangle himself."
Yeah I thought its was more like a yellow for that incident if that, due to it not really looking deliberate and more of a rough tangle with the players. But obviously another yellow for the push, so perhaps a red, but perhaps a bit harsh due to the more of a tangle then a deliberate groin cruncher
"Rooney was sent off by Argentine referee Horacio Elizondo and Ronaldo was captured by TV cameras winking at his bench as the England forward walked off the pitch."
Tut tut tut lol
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JK
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I think playing for your country overides club loyalties! |
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Posted: 2006-07-03 20:51
